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08-30-2005, 02:27 PM
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IC Friend
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Illinois, USA
Posts: 427
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Drug Screen?!
I have applied for a part-time evenings job as a cashier at a local car dealership. After 45 min interview - 2 hours of testing! .. now I have to go for a drug screen! (after all this...I better get the job!)
I haven't taken Percocet for 3 wks now. Was doing relatively well till Sunday. Starting a flare but I am also due to have my period this week. I have to give them a sample before Friday so I plan to do this Wed right after work.
Anyway my question is - will they let me self-cath myself to give them the sample??? Cuz since last night I have had a terrible time urinating and have almost cathed a couple of times. I would rather not be sitting in their room for 5 minutes trying to pee.  And should I take them a list of meds since my urine is bright orange and they will want to know why?
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Tara (tbokay)
Age almost 33! (4/27)
Single - no kids, but 1 cat, Bianca QT
Diagnosed mild IC in Oct 2004 - but on 11/7/05 told I DO NOT have IC (even though 2 other doctors agree that I DO have IC)
2nd cystoscopy 10/6/06 confirms I DO have IC! 3 out of 4 urologists agree ... It's not in my head!
9/11/06 Urodynamic results - bladder wont hold more than 200cc without causing retention due to lack of strength in bladder to start urine flow.
5/3/06 had IVP that revealed "mild swelling" of right kidney and ureter due to "recurrent infections or urine backup into kidney"
4/13/07 - started RMSO once a week for six weeks - ON HOLD DUE TO INFECTION!!!  Scheduled to start again 5/4/07.
Past meds:
Elmiron - severe nausea
Prosed - triggers migraines
Fentanyl - 3 day pain patch - lasted 36 hrs before I had to remove due to adverse reaction
Vicodin - stopped working
Tramadol - caused urine retention
Fioricet - caused urine retention
Nitrofurantoin (antibiotic for 3 months)
Celebrex 200 mg
Pyridium 200mg (for 30 days supply)
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08-30-2005, 02:46 PM
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Support Leader
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 6,663
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No. They will not let you bring anything into the drug test toilet with you -- no purse, nothing in your pockets, no cathing supplies.
I had a drug test for my current job and it was awful because I felt rushed and couldn't urinate for the longest time (I also have retention problems). They knocked on the door and made me go out and drink water, as if that was going to help. Finally, after a while, I was able to strain out enough urine for the test, and I had to explain to the woman that I had IC and that meant sometimes I had to pee all the time and sometimes it meant I couldn't pee at all -- but it was a terrible thing and I flared for a couple days because of the straining and the stress of the situation.
Also, if you are positive for any drugs (I was of course) they will call and want your pharmacy records and probably a letter from your prescribing doctor describing why you take the medication. As long as they get these things, the lab will report back to your employer that you were negative. So, if you must, take a Percocet and have your doc write a little note.
Sorry about the cath thing tho...
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Jen
*Diagnosed with severe IC in 2004
*Kept trying a million different treatments until I found what works, and I am doing great these days with the help of Atarax, Lyrica, pain medication, an occasional rescue instill at home, and the InterStim, which was placed in 2007
You can see my IC story at http://www.ic-network.com/patientstories/jennifer.html -- it's a little out of date these days, but you'll get the idea!
I am a doctor, but I am the Ph.D. kind, not the M.D. kind. Thus, I am not a medical authority nor do I offer definitive medical advice. I can only explain the science behind many medical issues, and in all cases, I strongly encourage you to discuss your medical treatment with your personal medical care provider. Only they can, and should, give medical recommendations to you.
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08-30-2005, 03:38 PM
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Guest
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 3,716
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Tara , good luck with the testing. I am too are in severe retention and in a lot of pain been living on Vicodin, ultram and pyruiduim .
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08-30-2005, 04:37 PM
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Angel watching over us
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Viera, Florida
Posts: 4,391
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I have had multiple drug tests, and as Jen said, a pharmacy record and a note from the prescribing doc is usually all they need.
Hugs,
Barb
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08-30-2005, 05:20 PM
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IC Friend
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Illinois, USA
Posts: 427
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I dont have any appts with my docs till mid Sept. Can I just take in my medicine bottles so they can see what I take?
I don't want any false positive results that could cause me to not get this job. I debated on telling the lady today that I do occasionally take Percocet - but I figured I haven't taken it for 3 wks and don't want her to know more than she should before I take the job.
And as far as cathing - you don't think they would allow me to take in a small cath and the lubricant? What do they think I will do with it - cath someone else???? What if I taped it to the inside of my thigh and used it if necessary? Or do they watch you pee like in the military?
I recall having to do the urine test for a temp agency 2 yrs ago and I was there for an hour! Drinking water but unable to empty. Other people came and went with no problem! This was a whole year BEFORE I was diagnosed with IC. The more I think back the longer I think I went undiagnosed!
I guess I will just drink as much as I can tomorrow afternoon and hope my urethra and bladder cooperate when it comes time for the test.
I'm going to bed ... got another migraine.
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Tara (tbokay)
Age almost 33! (4/27)
Single - no kids, but 1 cat, Bianca QT
Diagnosed mild IC in Oct 2004 - but on 11/7/05 told I DO NOT have IC (even though 2 other doctors agree that I DO have IC)
2nd cystoscopy 10/6/06 confirms I DO have IC! 3 out of 4 urologists agree ... It's not in my head!
9/11/06 Urodynamic results - bladder wont hold more than 200cc without causing retention due to lack of strength in bladder to start urine flow.
5/3/06 had IVP that revealed "mild swelling" of right kidney and ureter due to "recurrent infections or urine backup into kidney"
4/13/07 - started RMSO once a week for six weeks - ON HOLD DUE TO INFECTION!!!  Scheduled to start again 5/4/07.
Past meds:
Elmiron - severe nausea
Prosed - triggers migraines
Fentanyl - 3 day pain patch - lasted 36 hrs before I had to remove due to adverse reaction
Vicodin - stopped working
Tramadol - caused urine retention
Fioricet - caused urine retention
Nitrofurantoin (antibiotic for 3 months)
Celebrex 200 mg
Pyridium 200mg (for 30 days supply)
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08-31-2005, 06:49 AM
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ICN Staff
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: Junction City, Oregon, USA
Posts: 25,522
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In some places, there is someone to go in the bathroom with you for the drug test. At the hospital where I worked, if you were taking controlled medications you were asked to bring with you the actual prescription in its container showing the prescription number and ordering physician. They would then contact the physician if there were any questions.
Donna
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09-01-2005, 02:32 PM
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IC Friend
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Illinois, USA
Posts: 427
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I went for the test yesterday (Wed 8/31) and had to cath the sample. I've found that if I hold my urine too long I can't go .. which was the case yesterday. I held it 30 minutes and I just couldn't get it out.
I had to wash my hands BEFORE the test, then they turned off the water to the room so I couldnt even do the trick of listening to the water run! I sat there for about 2 minutes and tried but then I gave up and told the nurse about my problem - she went to ask the doc who said it was okay after they saw that the cath was sterile and the lubricant was also sealed. 30 seconds later they had their urine!
I had my actual medication bottles with me but the nurse said they didnt need any of that. If it came up positive, they would call me first to find out what I take and may ask for doc's note. I hope it comes back negative.
I did notice in the cath that I had bloody mucus at the top of the tube. I am hoping that it was just from being cathed and not the start of any infections. Its a 3-day weekend! And I REFUSE to be stuck at home!!!
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Tara (tbokay)
Age almost 33! (4/27)
Single - no kids, but 1 cat, Bianca QT
Diagnosed mild IC in Oct 2004 - but on 11/7/05 told I DO NOT have IC (even though 2 other doctors agree that I DO have IC)
2nd cystoscopy 10/6/06 confirms I DO have IC! 3 out of 4 urologists agree ... It's not in my head!
9/11/06 Urodynamic results - bladder wont hold more than 200cc without causing retention due to lack of strength in bladder to start urine flow.
5/3/06 had IVP that revealed "mild swelling" of right kidney and ureter due to "recurrent infections or urine backup into kidney"
4/13/07 - started RMSO once a week for six weeks - ON HOLD DUE TO INFECTION!!!  Scheduled to start again 5/4/07.
Past meds:
Elmiron - severe nausea
Prosed - triggers migraines
Fentanyl - 3 day pain patch - lasted 36 hrs before I had to remove due to adverse reaction
Vicodin - stopped working
Tramadol - caused urine retention
Fioricet - caused urine retention
Nitrofurantoin (antibiotic for 3 months)
Celebrex 200 mg
Pyridium 200mg (for 30 days supply)
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09-01-2005, 02:34 PM
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Support Leader
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 6,663
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Dammit  Lucky you... the people where I went said ABSOLUTELY NO to the cathing... I offered to let the doctor or nurse do it FOR ME so they knew no funny stuff was going on, but no dice. Had to sit for 30 min, literally... *sigh*
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Jen
*Diagnosed with severe IC in 2004
*Kept trying a million different treatments until I found what works, and I am doing great these days with the help of Atarax, Lyrica, pain medication, an occasional rescue instill at home, and the InterStim, which was placed in 2007
You can see my IC story at http://www.ic-network.com/patientstories/jennifer.html -- it's a little out of date these days, but you'll get the idea!
I am a doctor, but I am the Ph.D. kind, not the M.D. kind. Thus, I am not a medical authority nor do I offer definitive medical advice. I can only explain the science behind many medical issues, and in all cases, I strongly encourage you to discuss your medical treatment with your personal medical care provider. Only they can, and should, give medical recommendations to you.
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09-02-2005, 01:55 PM
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IC Friend
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Illinois, USA
Posts: 427
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I Passed
I passed my drug test! (like I had anything to worry about!)
I was offered the position and accepted.
I will talk to my director on Tues to see when my change in hours can be effective so I can start this part-time job. I'm hoping Wed cuz I need the money!
Sarojini - sorry you had a bad experience. The last time I went to ER the nurse wouldn't let me cath myself for the sample - but most times they let me do myself. Guess it depends on the doc and nurse on how compassionate they want to be to us.
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Tara (tbokay)
Age almost 33! (4/27)
Single - no kids, but 1 cat, Bianca QT
Diagnosed mild IC in Oct 2004 - but on 11/7/05 told I DO NOT have IC (even though 2 other doctors agree that I DO have IC)
2nd cystoscopy 10/6/06 confirms I DO have IC! 3 out of 4 urologists agree ... It's not in my head!
9/11/06 Urodynamic results - bladder wont hold more than 200cc without causing retention due to lack of strength in bladder to start urine flow.
5/3/06 had IVP that revealed "mild swelling" of right kidney and ureter due to "recurrent infections or urine backup into kidney"
4/13/07 - started RMSO once a week for six weeks - ON HOLD DUE TO INFECTION!!!  Scheduled to start again 5/4/07.
Past meds:
Elmiron - severe nausea
Prosed - triggers migraines
Fentanyl - 3 day pain patch - lasted 36 hrs before I had to remove due to adverse reaction
Vicodin - stopped working
Tramadol - caused urine retention
Fioricet - caused urine retention
Nitrofurantoin (antibiotic for 3 months)
Celebrex 200 mg
Pyridium 200mg (for 30 days supply)
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09-02-2005, 02:02 PM
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Angel watching over us
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Viera, Florida
Posts: 4,391
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Congrats on your new position, Tara! Glad that you didn't have to do a paper chase with a positive UA either.
Hugs,
Barb
__________________
(Babs passed away in April 2009. We honor her memory and remember her fondly. - Jill O. ICN President & Founder)
[SIZE="1"]Proud mama of a gift named Lindsey who taught me through her autism what is important in life:angel:
:angel: IC Angel Volunteer Coordinator :angel:
:) Contact me via PM or e-mail if you would like to help
I have learned all about life in 3 words: It goes on! :D--Robert Frost
PCOS 7/85
RSD 7/94 :headbang:
Endometriosis 9/98 :toilet:
Antiphospholipid antibody syndrome 9/99
Kidney stones--too many to count
Factor V Leiden mutation 10/02
IC 6/03 :evilsmile
Deep Venous Thrombosis and Cellulitis 12/05 :loco: DVT and Greenfield Placed 3/14/08
"Spirit is an invisible force made visible in all of life"--Maya Angelou
"Ohana means family--no one gets left behind or forgotten." Stitch[/SIZE][/SIZE][/SIZE]
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09-02-2005, 02:23 PM
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IC Friend
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Colorado
Posts: 622
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Congratulations Tara, I am very happy for you. You must be so relieved.
Bianchi
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