06-24-2004, 06:16 AM #1
Anyone heard of Candida and ThreeLac?
I was looking up some info on fibrmyalgia and I came across this page. I took the test and had a really high score. Has anyone heard of Candida and does it have any revelance that pertains to the cause of fibromyalgia. Ofcourse they say that **** helped them. I'm just wondering if anyone has had experience with this. I think I have fibromyalgia becuase I have all the symptoms but don't have a rheumatologist app until August. I have had a mold problem in my basement. We have a dehumidifier down there and have cleaned it but until we fix the grading of the house water still seeps into it. Could this be a possible cause? I have IC and other things. Just wondering. If you have any advice or opinion please let me know. I appriciate it. Take care - Chris If you want to read the artical I read it from here. ****
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06-24-2004, 06:57 AM #2
While in the process of being diagnosised with IC, I was also told I had canidia and fibro along with a few other things. Not sure if there is any connection but it might be worth-while to ask your doc.
There is also a great book out there on canidia, I can't remember the name right now but will go through my books and find it... it helped me so very much...
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06-24-2004, 07:39 AM #3
Candida is yeast. Doesn't cause IC but it sure can cause a flare up when it gets out of balance in our bodies.Kim
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07-02-2004, 05:41 PM #4
I have been told that I also may have candida ( and I have posted all over tonight saying this) How do we treat it? Diet? Any suggestions I am really confident that this is the other piece in my Ic life, any thoghts or help would be great.
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07-03-2004, 03:02 AM #5
BigDog is right --- that's one reason for editing out internet sites where selling products is the main purpose.
If you have candida (yeast infection) your best resource is your physician. There are prescriptions medications that are very effective in treating yeast. I know there may be some herbal remedies that may help to avoid yeast, but once you have it, at best the herbals will take months to help, if at all.
Candida is very easily diagnosed by culture.
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07-03-2004, 04:43 PM #6
Can you have candida and still have no vaginal yeast infection? I have all the symptoms for candida but do not have a vaginal infection, I have had them in the past though but they always went away with one dose of diflucan?
07-03-2004, 06:33 PM #7
Thank You I am going to look into that, it sure would explain alot!
07-05-2004, 05:20 AM #8
Thanks for the heads up and info. I will talk to the doc. That's why I asked here. I didn't want to waste my money or time. Thanks again - Chris :butterfly
04-28-2005, 05:29 AM #9
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If your doctor is on board, that's great. I found a doctor who was open to different things. I tried a prescription, but it didn't help me. It didn't hurt me either. Some antifungal prescriptions can be harmful to the liver. Do some research.
Many people are linking fibro with Candida. Others are taking it a step further and linking both to Leaky Gut syndrome.
Erica White has a book called Beat Fatigue Handbook which may be useful to you. She also has a book on candida. William Crook has some great books as well.
Watch out for a lot of tests out there. It's expensive and not always accurate. I would try experimenting with diet.
As for the mold in the basement, YES it could make you more sick and indicate a problem with molds/yeasts. Mold in the house causes so many problems, never mind digestive illness.
Threelac is commonly used. I haven't used it. I don't necessarily recommend it either. I think diet is key to this whole thing.
Yes herbal remedies take a long time to help heal, but using advice from your doctor, natural remedies and a good diet is a great balance for a strong plan.To good health and happy eating! www.CantEatIt.net
04-28-2005, 05:46 AM #10
Skin Disorders and Candida Albicans
By Michael Biamonte, C.C.N.
Overgrowth of intestinal yeast Candida albicans can be signified by a large number of skin problems, including psoriasis, inflammation, and rashes on various parts of the body. In fact, some experts estimate that 15% of patients with Candida overgrowth have some type of skin lesions.1 Numerous clinical studies have linked the presence of anti-Candida albicans antibodies in the blood with the clinical condition of atopic dermatitis.2-5 A team of German investigators found an inordinately large amount of Candida albicans yeast in the stool samples of HIV patients suffering from seborrheic dermatitis.6 The can be two types of candida related skin problems. The most common is when candida overgrows within the digestive tract and then releases “mycotoxins”(yeast toxins) and Neuro-toxins (toxins that effect the nervous system) into the Digestive tract. These are skin problems, which are indirectly caused by Candida. These toxins can be absorbed into the blood stream and the lymphatic system. At this point these toxins have entered they general circulation and can cause a cascade of allergic reactions which result in eczema, psoriasis atopic dermatitis etc. Candida typically causes malabsorption of many important nutrients that would normally help nourish the skin and prevent allergic reactions. Without these nutrients we are more susceptible to dry, flaky and inflamed skin. Allergic reactions also increase due to the lack of nutrients to help the liver detoxify the allergic reaction via liver function.
Candida Growth directly On The Skin
It is less common that Candida causes an infection of the skin by directly invading the skin. Candida can infect mucous membranes and moist areas of the skin. Typical areas of infection are the lining of the mouth and vagina, the genital area and anus, the armpits, the skin under the breasts in women, and the skin folds of the stomach. Conditions that enable Candida to infect the skin include hot, humid weather; tight, synthetic underclothing; poor hygiene; and inflammatory diseases, such as psoriasis, occurring in the skin folds. These are skin problems that are caused by the direct growth of candida on the skin!
Infections in skin folds (intertriginous infections) or in the navel usually cause a bright red rash, sometimes with softening and breakdown of skin. Small pustules may appear, especially at the edges of the rash, and the rash may itch intensely or burn. A Candida rash around the anus may be raw, white or red, and itchy. Babies may develop a Candida rash in the diaper area
Penile candidiasis most often affects men with diabetes, uncircumcised men, or men whose female sex partners have vaginal candidiasis. Usually the infection produces a red, raw, sometimes painful rash on the head of the penis and sometimes the scrotum. Sometimes the rash may not cause any symptoms.
Perlèche is candidiasis at the corners of the mouth, creating cracks and tiny cuts. It may stem from chronic lip licking, thumb sucking, ill-fitting dentures, or any other condition that leaves the corners of the mouth moist enough so that yeast can grow.
Candidal paronychia is candidiasis in the nail beds, producing painful redness and swelling Nails infected with Candida may turn white or yellow and separate from the nail bed. This disorder typically occurs in people with diabetes or a weakened immune system or in otherwise healthy people whose hands are subjected to frequent wetting or washing.
Standard Medical Treatment
Usually, a doctor can identify candidiasis by observing its distinctive rash or the thick, white, pasty residue it generates. To confirm the diagnosis, a doctor may scrape off some of the skin or residue with a scalpel or tongue depressor. The sample is then examined under a microscope or placed in a culture medium (a substance that allows microorganisms to grow) to identify the specific .Generally, candidiasis of the skin is easily cured with creams containing miconazoleSome Trade Names
04-28-2005, 05:50 AM #11
CANDIDA SIGNS AND SYMPTOMS
By Michael Biamonte, C.C.N.
Candida Albicans has become a household word for many health conscious Americans. Candida is a yeast that lives in the human digestive system. It has the ability to change from a yeast and become a fungus. As a fungus it operates in a similar fashion to any other fungus such as athletes' foot fungus, etc. Candida is kept at low levels by the friendly bacteria that also reside in the digestive tract. The friendly bacteria feed on the Candida, thus a balance in the body is maintained. Modern medicine's "gift" of antibiotics, birth control pills, cortisone and chemotherapy kill this friendly bacteria as do street drugs, alcohol, and junk food diets.
Once this friendly bacteria has been destroyed, the yeast begins to overgrow and take over the digestive system. Left untreated, it becomes a fungus and grows into a plant-like structure complete with roots. These roots can break through the intestinal walls, allowing the yeast to travel to other areas of the body such as the sinuses, throat, reproductive organs, the lungs and skin just to name a few.
It is capable of producing over 100 symptoms. This makes it extremely frustrating for anyone with this condition to be able to find out or understand what is exactly wrong with them. Billions are spent each year on antibiotics, creams, nasal sprays, unnecessary hospital visits, operations and antidepressants, due to the ignorance and arrogance of the medical profession. It is written in their own journals that antibiotics can cause this condition yet they continue to boldly prescribe them and are resentful when discussing their side effects. One doctor who was backed into a corner on this subject during a radio talk show became hysterical with fear and began screaming: "THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS CANDIDA!"
The symptoms of Candida are so confusing that even a practitioner who wants to know about it can be confused. I truly believe that proper testing is the answer. It is my deep-seated belief that those who want to get well must find a practitioner who offers accurate testing. This way the real problem can be found and not overlooked.
Look over the list of all the possible symptoms Candida can cause and you will see why I so firmly believe that by symptoms alone one can be misled into treating a "major symptom" and miss the true culprit.
SYMPTOMS OF CANDIDA
Intolerance of perfumes, odors, fumes, fabric shop odors and tobacco smoke.
Complaints that worsen in damp, muggy or moldy places.
Athletes' foot, jock itch, fungal infections on the skin or nails.
Craving for sugar, bread or alcohol.
Prostitis or vaginitis.
Abdominal distention, bloating or pain.
Gas or flatulence.
Rectal itching or rash.
Vaginal itch, burning or persistent infections.
Kidney, bladder infections.
Cystitis (inflammation of the bladder with possible infection).
Joint pain or swelling.
Loss of sex drive.
Feeling spaced out.
Numbness, burning or tingling.
Endometriosis (irregular or painful menstruation).
Cramps or menstrual irregularities.
Spots in front of eyes.
Irritability or jitteriness.
Feeling of swelling and tingling in the head.
Mucus in the stools.
Sores or blisters in the mouth.
Post nasal drip.
Sore or dry mouth.
Sore or dry throat.
Pain or tightness in the chest.
Wheezing or shortness of breath.
Burning or itching eyes.
Burning on urination.
Food allergies or food reactions.
As you can see, the symptoms are so varied no one person has all the same set as another. The average Candida sufferer has 20 or more of these (while others have less and some have more). Many times they have given up on ever finding out what was wrong with them because all of these symptoms seem unrelated.
One patient spent 7 days in the hospital, was wheeled from one examination room to another--a grand tour of the hospital--only to be told it was all in her head. She was charged over $6000.00 for that stay. Upon her release a stool analysis was done and Candida was found. In addition, her symptoms were worsened by all the jello and the horrible hospital food.
Symptoms of Candida, regardless of what they are, will worsen in hot, humid or muggy weather. Like any mold or fungus, heat and humidity help it grow and spread. Symptoms can also vary according to one's diet. Sugar, alcohol, starches, fermented foods, sweets (even fruits) will increase symptoms by feeding the yeast organisms. This will cause them to grow and release more toxins which will produce symptoms. Stress is key in triggering symptoms. It has long been recognized that stress plays a part in lowering the immune function of the body. The immune system is what tries to keep the yeast under control. Simply being over-worked, over-tired, or over-stressed will cause an increase in Candida and therefore its symptoms.
The environment one lives in can play a big role if one is exposed to toxic metals, fumes, smoke, pollution, and in direct contact with various chemicals. The immune system can become overloaded and therefore further dip which will allow more yeast to grow.
If one finds that these conditions cause an increase in symptoms, there is a very good chance that Candida is present. Proper testing is essential to determine this for sure and to find out how bad the condition is. Blood tests can be inaccurate if they only test for Candida antibodies and antigens. These tests can show positive even after the Candida is gone or if one simply has an allergy to yeast. I believe a better solution is a blood test called a Candisphere, which measures the amount of the toxic protein that the large colonies of Candida release into the blood that are directly causing the symptoms.
Another new test can tell us the following: 1) How much friendly bacteria is present and able to fight the Candida. 2) How much harmful bacteria is present that can weaken the friendly bacteria acting as a friend to Candida. 3) How much harmful bacteria is present that can cause symptoms along with the Candida. 4) How well the digestive system is breaking down and absorbing all the foods we eat. 5) If there if is any inflammation or irritation in the intestines or colon from the Candida. 6) If the Candida has caused damage or leaks in the intestinal walls allowing allergens or toxins to come into the body. 7) How well the immune system in the intestines is working to fight the Candida.
This wonderful new test can help us understand exactly what Candida is doing and what damage it has created. This helps us understand the symptoms and their origin so as to eliminate much of the guessing that could otherwise take place. Candida can be trickier than a used car salesman and more confusing then our current economic problems. You could go crazy trying to figure out what all the symptoms mean and why they happen etc, etc. Please!!! find competent help. Don't drown in a sea of confusion or yeast!
04-28-2005, 05:56 AM #12
With that information you can plainly see that it is not just a yeast inffection. Candida also is the same as thrush so when you hear of a baby that has thrush its actually the candida. If anyone is interested in the site I got it from you are welcome in sending my a private message and I will give it to you. Crystilclear I have seen here and read a bit on how mold can be the cause of a ton of issues with the human body and if your mold is that bad you might want to seek out a toximologist to get tested to see if you have mold toxation in your blood. Here is a very good website that explains alot about toxic mold http://www.mold-help.org/
09-01-2008, 06:38 AM #13
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I've never been diagnosed with candida but am starting to believe it is responsible for some of my health problems. I probably should have the doctor test me for it but have heard, too, that those tests are not always accurate and many doctors don't believe in testing for candidiasis or they believe it's not as prevalent as the folks in the alternative medicine/natural health community believe it is.
But..... here's what I have done and you might try this. Go out and buy some odorless garlic supplements and take them. I would start with maybe two a day and build up to four or five. See if you can tell a difference because garlic is a strong anti-fungal and kills candida. When I take these supplements I see a lot of discharge that looks like yeast and smells like yeast. That tells me I'm killing off a lot of yeast.
Also, have you noticed your symptoms being worse when on antibiotics? I definitely did. I found that when I would take any antibiotic but particularly doxycycline, I would have cold symptoms, feel like I couldn't breathe, my skin would break out in rashes and I would get yeast infections. Also my back pain would increase a lot and my interstitial cystitis would flare as well as my lichen sclerosis.
I'm pretty sure the vulvar lichen sclerosis, a type of auto-immune skin condition that causes skin lesions, is triggered by yeast/fungus. When my skin comes in contact with yeast, I break out in these lesions.
Also, I've had a problem these past two years with repeated bouts of folliculitis and I use Nizoral (anti-fungal, dandruff) shampoo on my skin to clear this up but it always comes back. Folliculitis looks like a skin rash or little pustules or pimples. Mine they say is not bacterial because the shampoo clears it up.
The other thing that has helped me is olive leaf extract. Also taking multi-vitamins and anti-oxidents helps boost the immune system to fight it.
I took cat's claw for a while and I couldn't tell a huge difference but I had problems for about a year with my eyelids twitching constantly. After taking the herbs the eyelids stopped twitching. The other thing I saw was something goopy in my contact lens solution. It would grow in my contact lens case if I did not clean it out every couple of days. I don't see that anymore. But, I'm having chronic eye problems now with keratitis and conjunctivis andt he doctor doesn't know what's causing it and is attributing it to allergies. I think this is all related most probably.
09-01-2008, 07:40 AM #14
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My mother has had candida/thrush for 2 years now...we have tried everything under the sun possible to try and clear it up, weather it be all natural or stuff from the doctor....5 doctors and 100's of meds later she still has it and it just gets worse....If anyone reading this has anything worth while to say or knows of something that can help besides what I have already read on this post I would love to hear about it.Diagnosed w/IC 7/18/05
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09-01-2008, 08:43 AM #15
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I had terrible yeast after taking tons of anti-biotics. I had to take diflucan every day (its a pill) for I think at least three weeks. There are natural supplements that can help with a "candida cleanse". The basic thing to know is the diet. Don't eat anything with yeast (obvious) but also try to avoid sugar. I didn't know this when I started, but yeast really feeds off sugar. Even natural sugars in fruit. It was really hard but I did 8 weeks of a yeast and sugar free diet along with the diflucan and yeast creams applied externally and fianlly got rid of it. It can take some people much longer depending on the degree of yeast in your system. Check your public library. There is a book out there and I can't think of the name of it. It is all about candida and what it does to you. It is a very famous book and someone might be able to give you the name of it. If you look up candida in your library database, it will probably bring up the name of the book. You can also try to google it as yeast book and it will probably bring up the name. It was very informative and gave alot of good advice. If I can find the name, I'll post it for you. Good luck.
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