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    Lemon water????

    My new Physical Therapist wants me to try the alkaline diet and to drink my water with fresh LEMON juice in it. I am very scared to try this. I only eat from the "usually OK column". Thats all I eat, except for blueberries. I still have a lot of urgency at times and PFD. She is highly recommended by my Urologist, and my Gyn. Do I try this even though everything I have read tells me NO!? I would appreciate any thoughts on this. I value this web site and it has helped me so much more than the medical community.

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    My SIL who is very knowlegable about vits, and herbs, etc alternative treatments and medicines, told me that lemon is a citrus fruit but for some reason once in our bodies it changes, she felt I should drink it too. I am really sensative to citrus fruits so I was very cautious, I did try it, it did not make me flare as I expected but it didn't help either. Now to be truthfull I only drank it a few times, I was afraid that it would sneak up on me and cause a major flare. But I do know now that when a resturant etc gives you a glass of water with a slice of lemon in it I can still drink it I just take the lemon out.

    I know not much help but maybe others will know.

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    I would not touch lemon juice or any other citrus. Citrus is a problem for many ICers.

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    I agree Donna. For me its like eat an orange or hey I could also have battery acid! It would not even be enjoyable for me I would always be waiting for the pain to come. But tell this to the professional they dont seem to understand. It is an interesting thought, the acid foods turning to alkaline, but I don't think I can bring myself to try this. I don't even want to smell fruit its just scary!

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    body ph of lemon

    Websites that promote the health benefits of an alkaline diet list lemon as alkalizing and this type of diet is promoted in the book "Solving the interstitial cystitis puzzle: a guide to natural healing"

    sherwood

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    Make sure you eat the skins too. That's where all the vitamins are. I sound just like my mother!
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    The question isn't whether lemon turns alkaline in the body or not. The question is how would it feel to an irritated IC bladder with tiny wounds in its lining? I wouldn't put lemon juice on a cut on my hand, no way am I running it through my bladder!
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    ph test

    Rather than asking what food would irritate an open wound, an alternative question is what is the ph of your urine from all the other food combinations one has eaten. We have ph test paper in all of our bathrooms and test frequently. We strive for a ph of 7 but when it becomes more acidic we try to use more "alkaline-producing" foods.

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    The IC diet, which indicates that citrus is a problem for most people with IC, was developed with input from literally thousands of IC patients.

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    Questions about the alkaline diet pop up here periodically. It sounds sort of logical, but that's not actually the same as empirical research. I suggest anyone interested in it should do a lot of research, including reading the debunkers (of which there are plenty), before chugging down the foods that are supposed to make your urine alkaline--especially when those foods contradict the basis of the IC diet. Urine is by nature acidic. That's why the bladder lining was invented in the first place.

    Some of us are simply more diet-sensitive than others. One of us might be okay with a little squirt of lemon, but for others it's a different story. The best way to approach it is with caution and the scientific method, trying only very small amounts of any new food or drink and seeing how your body reacts.

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    Lemon is a very potent poison for my bladder.

    I alkalinize by taking Prelief and eating mostly veggies.

    The only fruit I can eat is pears and blueberries. The expensive ones!
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    I can tell you that I read that book and tried the ph thing. It may work for some people, but if you notice she starts out with very basic foods to alkalize (pretty much all are on the IC safe list and you pretty much eat nothing). Then she works her way up to other foods. This is basically what we are doing here - we start off with the bladder friendly list then move up as out bladders get better. I have tried lemons and limes and cannot do even a tiny little bit. I have also tried all types of Vit C and B and can't do any of those - buffered or not.

    I think it would be great to alkalize your body more - if it didn't burn the crap out of your bladder. Maybe if I was in remission I would try these, but still using caution.

    Teresa

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    I'd be deathly afraid to try the lemon..no way for me...

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    I totally agree with your post.

    I had a friend who has now passed away from colon cancer, but he lived about 4 years longer than expected, but after he had tried all traditional things he went on a total alkalizing diet, and there was not much he could eat, ( I am not promoting this way of eating just sharing an expirence) the idea is the cancer can't live in this enviroment, his cancer did well while he was on the diet very stickly, but he could not cheated at all, or it didn't work. He carried I think cucmbers for snacks, I think he ate most green vegies but it has been awhile and I am not too sure of the, he tried a few different diets along the way. But even though it was life and death to him he could not maintain this diet long term, he felt it was just too hard and it wasn't really living to him.

    Mostly we have to figure out what works for each of us and it is different for each of us.

    I for the most part don't do citrus at all, but after my SIL insisted I should try lemons I did try a bit in water, which I like to drink. I did fine with it but at that point my bladder was doing well anyways, I did not add it back to my diet because I can even have a coffeee when now and then when my bladder is good but not when it is not. I am afraid to use it because I know how unhappy an orange can make my bladder in a heart beat, so I figure why push it, but if I am out and there is a bit of lemon in something depending on how my bladder is I may or may not eat it, I don't just automaticly not eat it.

    Well intentioned friends, last xmas a couple of friends decided we should do a 3 way cookie exchange, I dodn't really like these i put alot of work into it and then get things I can't eat, so we disscussed what I can and can't eat again, come exchange day they both had made lemon flavored cookies, of which I smiled and said thank you and didn't mention I could not eat them. This year I am just going to say I am too busy to do the exchange.

    Well this is much longer than I intended, but it is just my 2 cents worth. MG

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    Healthy urine is slightly acidic. Alkaline urine is listed as abnormal and can indicate infection.

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