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02-07-2006, 03:45 PM #1
IC Patient Successfully Sues For Mistaken Hysterectomy
IC patient Angela Burch, wife of Army Major Daniel Burch, was awarded $2 million by a federal judge earlier this week, resulting from medical malpractice case relating to her diagnosis of IC. Ms. Burch had been a pelvic pain patient for several years. In a situation that we believe is quite common, her physicians disagreed on the source of her pain. Her urologist believed that she had interstitial cystitis while her internist and OB-GYN suspected that she had endometriosis. Regrettably and inappropriately, a hysterectomy was performed despite the fact that her uterus was perfectly normal.
We have received numerous reports from patients who have had a hysterectomy for the treatment of their pelvic pain only to discover, after the fact, that their pain came from the bladder rather than uterus. Some were quite young, such as former ICN Assistant Manager Diane Manhattan-Lopresti. Given the outstanding diagnostic methods we currently have today, such as the PUF questionnaire, this simply should not be occurring. Our hearts go out to Ms. Burch and her family. We applaud you for your courage in bringing this legal action and in telling your story!
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02-08-2006, 02:28 AM #2
Wow!
Holly
1/19/2006 diagnosed with PBS/possible IC
2/1/2006 Elmiron & Elavil 50mg
3/2006 began PN symptoms
7/18/2006 broth culture sent (found Strep D) stopped Elmiron & Elavil and began long-term amoxicillin - IC symptoms relieved at last!
09/29/2006 PNMLT found pudendal nerve damage on rt side (nerve block to be done Oct 4)
10/20/2006 - lyrica for PN pain (didn't last)
11/20/2006 - cymbalta for PN (didn't last)
12/2006 - stopped all meds and started Dr. Moldwin's therapy of valium and PT for PFD, which is still working for me
UPDATE 7/1/2008 - weaning off the valium...taking 2mg nightly about 5 days a week, so doing great. No more pudendal nerve pain, although I'm careful about how I sit at work and try to exercise to stay relaxed to minimize PFD. A powerplate workout machine helps massage those inner PF muscles, and I take MSM and glucosamine (in MonaVie) religiously, which are both natural antiinflammatories. I feel GREAT!
UPDATE 2/16/2010 - completely pain free!
Looks like the "IC" pain caused my PFD, which pinched and damaged my pudendal nerve, which in turn sends out misguided signals to my PF muscles....battling this pain cycle, but at least I have been pain-free bladder-wise for 2 years now!
JMHO - I don't believe that antibiotic therapy should be considered controversial....the theory that "IC" is a disease should be controversial. I believe that we all must find out what causes the damage to our bladder linings, stop that, and then let it heal. In only 9 short months, I added EVERYTHING back to my diet and have been "IC"-free for 2 years and counting.
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02-08-2006, 02:35 AM #3
I went to see a new gynecologist about a year ago. The first thing he said when I told him I had IC was that I should have a complete hysterectomy. I asked why, he said that it would heal my bladder. I asked him how removing other organs could heal an inflamed one and his next question was "Why do you want useless organs if you are not going to bear children?" I got up, told him he was not the doctor for me, and walked out. I'm just sorry I didn't ask for my copay back.
I am so glad he was not the first doctor I saw for my IC pain....
This probably happens more often than we know.
Kudos to Ms. Burch for being courageous and tenacious enough to bring this to light.Kadi
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I am not a medical authority nor do I offer medical advice. In all cases, I strongly encourage you to discuss your medical treatment with your personal medical care provider. Only they can, and should, give medical recommendations to you.
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This week's favorite one-liner:
"Just remember, if the world didn't suck, we'd all fall off. ~Author Unknown
"
New second favorite:
Please, Lord, let me prove that winning the lottery won't spoil me.
- Unknown
Adding a third because I'm just so darn easily amused...
"Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.
- Bruce Graham"
Current treatments:
-IC diet
-Elavil 30mg at night
-Ditropan 5mg at night
-Continuous use birth control pills (4-5 periods/year)
-Heparin/Marcaine/Sodium Bicarb home instills every morning and night
-Pyridium if needed, usually once a week or so
-1 Vicodin at bedtime,
-Flexeril 10mg at bedtime
-Dye Free Benadryl for allergies occasionally
-Pelvic floor & myofascial release (external only) physical therapy for 8 weeks, then home exercise program...
-Managing stress
-Fur therapy: Hugging the cat!
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02-08-2006, 02:39 AM #4IC Friend
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It must have taken a lot of courage to go thru all of that. I know after my hysterectomy everything got much worse than it was before the surgery, and like most women I was having the surgery to feel better 2 years later, still struggling...
Thanks for posting that!Effexor 150mg 2x
Neurontin 300 mg 3 x
Pyridium 3 x as needed
Valium 2mg 3x
hydroxyzine 50mg 4x as needed
Lidocaine gel as needed
Roxicodone 30mg 4-5x day as needed break-thru pain
Oxycontin 20mg 2x day
B & O Suppositories as needed for spasms
Meds that didn't work:
elmiron, Ditropan XL, urised, uromax, proced, vesicare, hep/sodium bicarb,lido instills 1x a day/3-4x a wk/ 4 x a mo.- caused too many infections, they made me flare like crazy!!
Dxd Endometriosis '96, lap. '98 removal of endo, lap. '99 another removal of endo, lap. '00 removal of endo and left ovary, '01 got pregnant Yeah!!!
'02 had New Year's Baby
, Feb. '03 return of endo, stage 4 full abdominal hysterectomy and apendectomy, June '03 removal of endo and abcess, Aug '03 wasn't healing correctly cut me open to heal from inside-out
Dxd w/ severe IC March '05 thru potassium test and cystoscopy/hydrodistention under anesthisia also dxd w/ pelvic floor dysfunction and vulvadynia
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02-08-2006, 04:03 AM #5
I also applaud for Angela Burch! I also had an unnecessary hysterectomy --- and I developed IC almost immediately after the surgery. That was 32 years ago.
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02-08-2006, 04:54 AM #6
I to had an uneeded hysterectomy. I started suffering in 1996 after my c-sect. I then started seeing my gyno for the pain and all the other bladder stuff. In 1999 we dec to try the hystrectomy to see if this would help my pain. Nope it did not. It was 2 yrs later I got my diagnose. I have always felt and said that IC cost me to lose a body part that I did not have to lose. I was only 28 at the time of the hystectomy.
God grant me the serinity to withstand the days ahead!!!
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Good for her!!!!
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02-08-2006, 05:10 AM #8
I haven't undergone a hysterectomy but I did have a doctor (a GYN) say that if I would get pregnant and have kids, all my IC symptoms would disappear. Uhhhhhh....
I don't know why these gyn's think doing something, anything to the uterus is going to help the bladder. I applaud Ms. Burch and I am glad things worked out in her favor....****
Jen
*Diagnosed with severe IC in 2004
*Also diagnosed with PFD, fibromyalgia, chronic myofascial pain, IBS, migraines, allergies/asthma, dermatographism
*Kept trying a million different treatments for all these things until I found what works, and I am doing okay these days with the help of a cocktail of medications and the InterStim, which was first placed in 2007. [I have had 2 revisions - one in 2010 when my battery died and had to be replaced, and one complete replacement (lead and generator) in 2012 after a fall on my stairs caused my lead to move.]
*Current meds include Atarax (50mg at night), Lyrica (150mg twice a day), Xanax (0.5mg at night and as needed), Zanaflex (4mg at night), hydrocodone (10/325, every 6 hours as needed), Advair, Nasonex, Singulair (10mg at night), oral contraceptives, home instills containing Elmiron and Marcaine (as often as I need to do them).
**I am not a medical authority nor do I offer definitive medical advice. I strongly encourage you to discuss your medical treatment with your personal medical care provider. Only they can, and should, give medical recommendations to you.
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02-08-2006, 05:32 AM #9
I was told to have a hysterectomy by one of the first doctors I saw for my IC problems. Thankfully, I had already found the ICN message board here and had figured out on my own, what my problem was . . . then all I had to do was find a doctor who could diagnose and treat me. After finding that doctor (Thank you, Dr. Wiygul) and getting on the right meds and the diet I began to steadily improve. . . and thank the Lord, I didn't go through with the hysterectomy. Dr. Wiygul told me, "what ever you do . . . don't let anyone do surgery on you. It will only make you worse". I've taken her advice to heart and the only way I will ever permit surgery is if I have cancer.
hugs,
Janie
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02-08-2006, 12:36 PM #10
Thank you everyone! I would really love to hear from other patients who were also told to have hysterectomies. We need to do a story on this BIG TIME and put some pressure on various medical associations to prevent this from happening further.
JillWould you like to talk with someone about your IC struggles? The ICN now offers personal coaching sessions that include myself, Julie Beyer RD on the diet and Diana Brady CNC on alternative medicines. http://www.icnsales.com/icn-personal-coaching/
Looking for books, magazines & reports on IC? Please visit the ICN Shop at: http://www.icnsales.com: Your ICN subscription & purchases in our shop support these message boards, chats and special events. BECOME AN ICN ANGEL TODAY!
Please remember that the information on the ICN is provided with the understanding that ICN, its founder, staff, volunteers, and participants are not engaged in rendering medical or professional medical services. We cannot and do not give medical advice. Only your personal physician can do this for you.
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02-08-2006, 12:54 PM #11
I think some of the OBGYN's think they can solve everything with either a birth control pill and if that won't work how about a Hysterectomy.
I was diagnosed with IC and Endo last year in July. I had the Endo lasered off. This did not help with the painfull periods/ovulation and pain during intercourse in fact if anything it has gotten worse. I was told having a Hysterectomy would get rid of my Endo. I even asked for my Urologist's opinion and how having a Hysterectomy would affect my IC and he said it sounded like a great idea and that he would recomend it. He said he has seen where some patients bladder problems just disappeared after having a Hysterectomy.
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02-08-2006, 01:42 PM #12Angel watching over us
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I have been part of the military health care system as a child, active duty, and as a spouse. While I a found a few truly professional caregivers overall, I am usually pumped full of pain meds, operated on, pumped full of meds...well you get the picture. Throw in a wife whose DH is gone and you are just plain
Hugs,
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02-08-2006, 01:46 PM #13
Hmm, gynos... If the only tool you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail?
Kadi
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I am not a medical authority nor do I offer medical advice. In all cases, I strongly encourage you to discuss your medical treatment with your personal medical care provider. Only they can, and should, give medical recommendations to you.
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This week's favorite one-liner:
"Just remember, if the world didn't suck, we'd all fall off. ~Author Unknown
"
New second favorite:
Please, Lord, let me prove that winning the lottery won't spoil me.
- Unknown
Adding a third because I'm just so darn easily amused...
"Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.
- Bruce Graham"
Current treatments:
-IC diet
-Elavil 30mg at night
-Ditropan 5mg at night
-Continuous use birth control pills (4-5 periods/year)
-Heparin/Marcaine/Sodium Bicarb home instills every morning and night
-Pyridium if needed, usually once a week or so
-1 Vicodin at bedtime,
-Flexeril 10mg at bedtime
-Dye Free Benadryl for allergies occasionally
-Pelvic floor & myofascial release (external only) physical therapy for 8 weeks, then home exercise program...
-Managing stress
-Fur therapy: Hugging the cat!
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02-08-2006, 02:50 PM #14
Kadi - did you come up with that "If the only tool you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail?" thing by yourself?
I need to remember that quote....you are so witty!
Holly
1/19/2006 diagnosed with PBS/possible IC
2/1/2006 Elmiron & Elavil 50mg
3/2006 began PN symptoms
7/18/2006 broth culture sent (found Strep D) stopped Elmiron & Elavil and began long-term amoxicillin - IC symptoms relieved at last!
09/29/2006 PNMLT found pudendal nerve damage on rt side (nerve block to be done Oct 4)
10/20/2006 - lyrica for PN pain (didn't last)
11/20/2006 - cymbalta for PN (didn't last)
12/2006 - stopped all meds and started Dr. Moldwin's therapy of valium and PT for PFD, which is still working for me
UPDATE 7/1/2008 - weaning off the valium...taking 2mg nightly about 5 days a week, so doing great. No more pudendal nerve pain, although I'm careful about how I sit at work and try to exercise to stay relaxed to minimize PFD. A powerplate workout machine helps massage those inner PF muscles, and I take MSM and glucosamine (in MonaVie) religiously, which are both natural antiinflammatories. I feel GREAT!
UPDATE 2/16/2010 - completely pain free!
Looks like the "IC" pain caused my PFD, which pinched and damaged my pudendal nerve, which in turn sends out misguided signals to my PF muscles....battling this pain cycle, but at least I have been pain-free bladder-wise for 2 years now!
JMHO - I don't believe that antibiotic therapy should be considered controversial....the theory that "IC" is a disease should be controversial. I believe that we all must find out what causes the damage to our bladder linings, stop that, and then let it heal. In only 9 short months, I added EVERYTHING back to my diet and have been "IC"-free for 2 years and counting.
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02-08-2006, 02:56 PM #15
you know that is so sad.. My doctor removed my apendix, thinking that was where my pain was.. and after it was removed I still had pain, and was told it was in my head, or it was flank pain..... maybe I should have looked more into this.. my apenix was taken out 10 years ago..
I am happy she won her law suit.'The will of God will never take you where the Grace of God will not protect you.'
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