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Oscar
10-18-2009, 04:50 AM
Although I am new to IC and don't profess to know anymore than I've learned in the last 48 hours, I think I have something to contribute from what I've seen so far.

Diet is critical. But changing one's diet is one of the hardest things to do. I've done it before, years ago. At about the same time I quit drinking and became a vegetarian. This took about 80% of my menu off the list. The not drinking was the only logical choice, and more or less "imposed", the quitting meat was, after eliminating all the other food intolerances, an impulse to, for once and for all, try to figure out what was wrong with my bowels. Kind of hard to do when you pour down triple vodka's, so now was the time. And, it worked.

In the beginning there is a great sense of loss, just like now with IC. Not only is it the specific foods you can no longer eat or drink, it is also intensities that you miss. I love hot sauce, salsa, pickled herring, aged manchego all the things that are now on the no list. :mad:

But I also remember missing my beer and only having an occasional NA beer. In the beginning it was a poor substitute but it was all I had as an a-stringent beverage. Interesting though, as time went on it started "filling" my palette for lack of a better word. It really hit me when my wife and I were at a party. I had gone to get beverages. A "normal" beer for her, and an NA for me. I had poured them both in a cup. When I made it back to my wife I gave her what I thought was hers, and took a sip of what I thought was mine. It wasn't. And it was GROSS. It was strong, it was YUK! Like when I was an 8 year old and sneaked a sip from daddies scotch for the first time. And this coming from a guy who a year before drank warm vodka straight from a flask without even twitching an eyelid....

So, my taste buds had re-set their bar. They will do that. Those of you who are ex smokers may know the taste of a cigarette after not having smoked for a long time. Nothing like we remembered it and, frankly, quite gross.

Now coming into the IC world I realize that I will have to use this knwoledge to make the transition palatable. (Sorry for the pun). A lot of food intolerance is about thresholds. So, we may not be able to eat everything, but there are a lot of things that we can eat in moderation. On another thread someone asks about Taco Hell. I responded about how I make my own burrito's. I used to put LOTS of spices in those. For a while now they will be spice free, and frankly, probably a little bland. But I know from experience that my taste buds will come back to the "reference plane" and that if I carefully experiment with a LITTLE cumin down the road, my taste buds will find the flavor in the dish. Same with curry, another one of my favorites. Plus, there are mild and spicy curries, I'll try to use the mild. Just a miniscule pinch. Today I wouldn't taste it, a year from now I know I will. Then I'll put the jar on the table and others can add to theirs. By the same token I suspect that a very small piece of onion sauteed in with whatever meat I'm cooking will now be lost, but a year for now will jump out, but be a negligible amount as far as my bladder is concerned.

Ironically I have, for the last six months, been trying small amounts of fish and meat again, no red, and so far my bowels are happy. Good timing.

No, none of this will work in restaurants where the cooks heap it all on. But frankly, I prefer cooking my own food and socializing in the kitchen with my loved ones.

Food for thought.

ICNDonna
10-18-2009, 05:29 AM
It sounds like you are going to be on top of your diet in no time. I think salt is the hardest to cut back --- I had to do that and at first foods tasted horrible! Now everyone else's food tastes much too salty.

I use leeks instead of onions and it's a very nice flavor.

Donna

Oscar
10-18-2009, 05:39 AM
I think salt is the hardest to cut back --- I had to do that and at first foods tasted horrible! Now everyone else's food tastes much too salty.

I cut back on salt years ago for general health reasons, so I'm good there. Yes a lot of restaurant food is waay to salty. I love leeks, good idea.

VickiB
10-18-2009, 07:18 AM
In the beginning there is a great sense of loss, just like now with IC. Not only is it the specific foods you can no longer eat or drink, it is also intensities that you miss. I love hot sauce, salsa, pickled herring, aged manchego all the things that are now on the no list. :mad:
This is so true! It is like going through the grieving process from a diet standpoint. Denial, Anger, Bargaining, Depression, Acceptance, -they're all there!

I used to be a Coke drinker (at least four bottles a day), and couldn't imagine life without cola! Pain is a great motivator though, so I committed to drastically changing my diet. And it worked! The funny thing is, like your beer experience, when I decided to try a bit of Coke again after years of abstaining I found I did not like the taste. :loco:

I think you're very right about one's taste buds re-setting their bar. It's important to know that this diet grieving process will likely pass with the feeling of deprivation lessening over time. I think many of our preferences towards what we eat & drink are largely based on habit anyway.

I'm glad you contributed this food for thought. I too have a feeling you'll be on top of this IC diet thing in no time!

Vicki

123456
10-18-2009, 07:38 AM
Do you all find that prelief is helpful as well as staying on the diet? I just started taking it for each meal. I'm trying to keep all my bases covered!

Oscar
10-18-2009, 08:55 AM
I have been taking it since last night, and today has been my best day so far. There is a little pain, but I can live with it. Went out and ran my woodchipper for a while and forgot about it. Of course the thing was banging my hands up so I was somewhat preoccupied.

When things settle down some more I may lay off the Prelief at home when I know EXCATLY what I'm eating. On the road it's going to be standard procedure.

SharonA
10-19-2009, 07:14 AM
I am a former smoker, former salt eater, former Pepsi-olic. Everything that was mentioned is the same for me. Another thing I have done is learn to eat salads without any type of dressing. I find that I really enjoy the taste of the veggies instead of the overpowering taste of the salad dressings. Romaine lettuce has a wonderful flavor.

I am about to experiment with eating less white sugar and white flour. Not because of IC. I am doing it to improve my husband's and my general health. It is going to be interesting.

Oscar
10-19-2009, 11:51 AM
learn to eat salads without any type of dressing

Or just a few drips of an oregano or rosemary infused olive oil. Lots of taste, minimal impact.

I've been eating whole wheat everything for a long time. There are awesome pastas out there, there are even whole wheat pancake and pizza doughs.

Go to a healthfood store, or a Wegmans/Whole Foods/Fresh Market and get some clean whole wheat without additives. Then just substitute in your favorite recipes. You'll be amazed at the difference.

A breadmaker will make an amazing pizza dough in 1 hour 20. Then you know EXACTLY what's in there. Then add your favorite topping, or make a calzone.

I like entertaining that way, because everyone can eat what they want. Make a few dough balls in advance, and the toppings. Take peoples "order" and make them up right there from the displayed toppings. Good fun. You can do exotic things like fresh mozarella, ****akes, duck, roasted peppers, lots of gahlic.......

Pizza can be so much more than the blah blah we can't eat anyways....

Oscar
10-19-2009, 11:53 AM
That's funny....the board censored the proper spelling of "sheetakes" :lmao: