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Go Hokies!
03-14-2009, 07:47 AM
Hi everyone,

I was diagnosed about a month ago with IC. My story…I’m 22 years old and got married this past August, when I was 21. My husband and I started dating September 2006 when I was 19 where we met at college. In March of 2007, we went to visit his brother and sister-in-law, while we were there I started noticing some blood in my urine and it hurt to pee. Mainly I was worried that I was experiencing break-through bleeding, at that time I had been on the pill for almost 2 years to help control my period, which was 10 days long with cramps for a week before it and for the 10 days I was on my period. As soon as we got back to school from the weekend, I made an appointment at the women’s center at the health clinic on campus. They had me give a urine sample and did an exam, I didn’t have break-through bleeding, and was told I had a very severe UTI. They gave me a medication for the UTI and the pain and sent me on my way. Then in June, I woke up at 5am and had to go to the bathroom, I then went every 5 minutes until 8am when there was blood in my urine again. I made the first appointment of the day at the health clinic and saw the same doctor who thought that we hadn’t killed all the bacteria and wanted me to take more meds and go on my way. July I had another UTI, then again in August, I even walked in to a walk-in-clinic and when they asked why I was there I said I have a UTI and that this was my 4th one in 5 months. They gave me a med and sent me home. September of 2007, I thought I was getting another one and went to the women’s clinic again where I met an awesome nurse practitioner who actually listened to everything I had to say. I didn’t have a UTI and she told me that I should go to a urologist. After seeing her again in October and November, where I had symptoms but no UTI she said I needed to go to a urologist so I did. The urologist gave me a medication to take after sex to prevent UTIs and had me to go a physical therapist. The physical therapist was a joke, after 5 visits the most she had told me to do was kegal exercises, which I might add only add to the pain. This summer I went to have my yearly exam at the gyno and told her I was in a lot of pain, that I had close to a dozen UTIs with many symptoms but no UTI, I was having pain all the time and was having pain with intimacy. My husband and I got married and I was in so much pain I couldn’t enjoy our honeymoon. I cried hysterically after the reception while my husband just held me, trying to calm me down. Before the wedding I couldn’t go to a urologist because I was on my parents insurance and they were worried that if something was found I wouldn’t be able to get my own insurance. Luckily for me I now have a job that provides really good insurance and have since been to a urologist. My first visit was in September and when I explained to him what was going on he thought it sounded more like IC then chronic UTIs. He had me get all my medical records and when I went back to him with all of that, he said after reviewing them it seemed I had only had 2 UTIs in the past year and a half. Since that discovery my husband and I have done tons of research and found that people with IC usually suffer from depression, which I am right now, before the IC I was a super happy person, now I just wish the pain would go away. The week before Christmas, I had a cystoscopy done. The result was that my bladder which should be a bubble bum pink color is bright red all over, apparently normally for IC it just has red spots. My doctor put me on Elavid, I’ve been on it for a month and it hasn’t seemed to work. My pain before taking it was on average an 8 on a scale of 1 to 10, after being on the medication my pain seemed to be about a 7.5 to 7.75. I think the worst part of all of this is the “leaking,” as I like to call it, otherwise known as peeing when I don’t mean to. It’s not like I have an urgency to go and I just don’t make it there in time. It’s more an issue that I have no real idea that it’s happening until I feel the moister down there and smell it. My husband is really good about a lot of this, when we are out he reassures me that there is no smell and that it hasn’t gone through my jeans. It’s one of those that I always wear a panty-liner as a just in case because it happens several times a day. When I went to the urologist and he put me on Elavid, he gave me the option of that or Detrol LA, I picked the one for the pain because it’s taking a big toll on me. It feels like no one really understands, my friends just don’t get that I have a problem, and I feel too uncomfortable to tell them about the leaking. Most of my friends have never even had a UTI so it’s not like they even know what to compare the pain to. There is no real thought of doing any kind of intimacy with my husband because that just is too painful. My family doesn’t understand at all, they keep saying I need to drink cranberry juice because that’s good for UTIs even though I don’t have a UTI. My husband is really good and does a lot of research for me, it helps that he was a medic in the army and can understand the stuff the doctor says and translate it for me. I found this website a few weeks ago and have been reading the posts and it’s been helpful because it’s made me cry many times. I think more I just needed a release and it was like finally a place where people know what I’m going through. I do think I’m lucky, I’ve never actually gone on a strict IC diet but I do know what will bother me and what won’t, chocolate and tomato sauce don’t bother me. It’s a good thing chocolate doesn’t bother me because I think I would go crazy without it. I do know if I have one of those two things and a glass of wine or another irritant it will kill me later and it’s something I have to think about before I eat or drink anything. I keep an eye on what I eat so I don’t do more than one irritant in a day or even in a week if I can help it. Mainly, I just want to get better and live a normal life, I’m tired of feeling like I have the bladder of my grandmother. All of this is just exhausting. When I first was doing all the research on IC my husband and I came across something that said people with IC have the quality of life of someone at the end stages of renal failure, and it seems like that’s true. It’s just hard and I apologize if I have vented or said more than people wanted to know about me, I just needed to get all of that off my chest, it’s a lot to hold in.

Thank you for having me as a member!
Go Hokies!

KarenAnne
03-14-2009, 08:16 AM
:welcome: So sorry that you had to join this club at such a young age. When you research this website, you'll find out alot about diet & the different treatments. Some things I found out: there are other meds besides Detrol & Elavil, sometimes we have to get second, third, or more doctor's opinions, & diet really does make a difference. The diet has a cumulative effect. It was very hard to go on such a restrictive diet at first, & I still don't like it.....but I do it. Cutting out caffeine, chocolate, citrus, tomato sauce, etc. is worth the sacrifice. You couldn't possibly be a bigger chocoholic than me, lol.
But everyone here will probably agree that continuing to bombard your poor inflammed bladder with all those chemicals & irritants is contributing to your distress. It takes several weeks on the IC diet to notice a difference. I also take Prelief with my meals & snacks, you can get it here or at your local drugstore. I hope this gets easier for you & I am so sorry it ruined your wedding day. My symptoms started two months after my wedding. Best wishes, Karen

jlarocca
03-14-2009, 08:39 AM
It helps that your husband is researching your condition with you. My husband is very understanding as well. On the upside, thank God we have good husbands that love us.

I can't help with the pain, because I still have lots of pain and am looking for help as well -- just diagnosed in January 2009, but with the leakage I did get help. My first urologist (before he knew I have ICS -- took him 8 months to diagnose me) put me on Vesicare. It helped a lot -- no more leakage. After the leakage stopped and I stopped eating chocolate (now I am a caramelaholic), and stopped drinking carbonated drinks and teas, I was able to get off the Vesicare. It didn't affect me as far as making me feel weird -- it just made my vision blurry. I took myself off of it and advised my new urologist. I stick to the diet and still have not experienced any leakage.

Goldfinch
03-14-2009, 01:05 PM
The process of finding a good treatment plan can be very frustrating--you're not alone! Read as much as you can about IC on the network here, and then make another appnt with the uro. Write down questions, and take your husband along for an extra set of ears and brains. There's a pretty good size toolbox to fight IC symptoms, the kicker is that IC, because it often acts more like a continuum of symptoms rather than one disease with easy rules, often necessitates custom-designed treatment and a combo of meds. We are all so different. That takes time and not a little patience.

The IC diet can be your best friend, especially while you are trying to find the best treatment plan. It does take time at first, reading labels, trying to figure out what doesn't hurt your bladder, planning meals in ways you never had to before, but it's non-invasive and can only help. It can take several weeks of a strict diet before your bladder calms down, so give it your best shot.

If, when you go back to the uro and you aren't satisfied with his knowledge about IC or the wide range of treatments available, and if he isn't ready to try a wide range of things to find relief for you, then it's time for a second opinion. Finding an IC specialist isn't a necessity (and there aren't a lot of them out there) but you want a doctor who takes your pain seriously and is open to learning along with you.

BT2008
03-15-2009, 08:45 AM
I too am so sorry that you have to join our ranks...but here is a heart-felt :welcome: nonetheless!

You are already getting some good advice, and you will continue to get a lot more when others chime in. And they will! Feel free to post in any of the sections that pertain to you and your version of IC. We will all be here for you.

You can read the basics of my history in my signature, so I will skip my long drawn-out story!! But I will say that while we must totally depend upon our physicians to take care of us from a medical perspective--and keep looking until you find a good one who will not only address the proper treatments for IC, but also acknowledge and treat your pain adequately--there is one very important thing that we can and must do for ourselves: follow a very strict diet until our pain is under very good, continuous control! (wow...what a run-on sentence that one is!! lol)

Anyway, the reason I stress the diet is because, even though I should have known better by now, last week I ate a canned green vegetable that has set me back months as far as pain is concerned! It was a product that I have used for years that I keep stocked in my pantry, so I never even thought to check the ingredients! I am still, three days later, trying to get my pain back under control. And even though that food tasted really good at the time, it was definitely not worth the pain it is causing!

I am now starting a new diet restriction: Check every label!! If it has an ingredient listed that is not recognizable from a spelling test I took throughout elementary grade school, then I refuse to eat it!! :lmao:

Also, maybe you can eat chocolate and tomatoes (I truly hope you can), but--you might want to consider laying off of both of these for a while anyway, at least until your pain is under better control. Why? Well, you may be in denial about this, just like so many of us have been and still are! This is really quite common for IC'ers! These two foods (plus coffee, sodas & tea) are so yummy and so popular today that most of us think we cannot live without them! So, denial that we cannot have them is the first reaction to such a restriction.

But there are adequate substitutes: white chocolate for one, other sweets, and someone else mentioned caramel. And, for tomatoes? I thought I could eat tomatoes too! But a few months ago, when I was doing pretty good with the pain (not great, but pretty good) I ate no more than a tablespoon of ketchup. And, yowee mama! OMG! ... Well...suffice it to say that I will never eat ketchup again!

These days I take some red bell peppers (not the hot kind) whirl them around in my food processor (either after boiling them for a while, roasting them in the oven, or not) and use that as a pseudo-tomato base for pasta, homemade pizza, etc. It really is very good! I also chop them up and put them on salads instead of chopped tomatoes. Maybe my brain sees "red" and thinks "tomatoes" lol...but I have not missed eating tomatoes as much as I thought I would! Also, instead of mayonnaise, I am learning to make sandwich spreads and salad dressing using cream cheese as a base.

Considering how much we have to give up by having IC, it really is amazing that we can still have so many herbs and spices. Experiment and find tastes that suit your desires.

My point in all of this is that totally restricting our diets until our pain is well under control is the only way we will find out for sure which foods we can safely eat and which ones we cannot. Yes, it is a total bummer! But continuous pain is much worse than that! After such restriction, as you will find mentioned on many threads, start reintroducing certain foods back into your diet 'one at a time' ... wait several days, and then add another one. As soon as you feel any of your symptoms returning, put that on your own personal 'no-no' list. You can always go back and try it again later, and maybe it will prove to be safe again.

There are so many things about IC that we cannot control easily--but we can most definitely control what we choose to eat and drink! Suffering from severe pain is not worth pleasing our taste buds or our psychological dependencies!

So, find a good doc who will take care of you medically, and work hard to find the diet that will work especially for you!

Good luck to you, stay with us here on the forum, and take good care of yourself--everyday!
~Beth

c2miracle
03-15-2009, 09:42 AM
:welcome: Think Positive :smile tee

SharonA
03-15-2009, 12:28 PM
Sending out a hearty :welcome: to the ICN to both Go Hokies! and jlarocca.

:):):):):)

kmoore
03-16-2009, 02:21 AM
I am 24 and probably have it just as bad as you. It took me a couple of years to get diagnosed, it was the hardest thing ever! I got married almost 3 years ago, and the honeymoon thing, I completely am there. My husband and I joke, that when I am better, we will go on another honeymoon, to take place for the last one. He is so understanding, of course he has hard days, but he supports me! I couldn't ask for anyone better. It is so hard, being so young! I do the IC diet, but I have tomatoe sauce, and chocolate and things that don't trigger me. It is really finding out what works for you! The best thing for me was to go all organic, that has helped a LOT...we made the choice, and would never go back, we both feel so much better. Also for the IC, I would do PT if you aren't already, it has helped me tremendously!! I don't know where I would be without my myofasical (sp?)release. Hang in there!

leelee88
03-16-2009, 02:27 AM
Just wanted to add another :welcome:

Porterat
03-16-2009, 03:03 AM
I just wanted to pass on some info that help me so much. Go to this link, (http://www.ic-network.com/forum/showthread.php?t=55506) it's to a post about skype and it also has different ICN member user names so you can get a hold of someone to talk and also learn:). I recommend you talk with Jill (incmgrjill) on skype (the founder of this site). She helped me so much in understanding what I'm dealing with and also gave me a lot of homework about IC. She is truly blessing and everyone on this site. Being a new member to IC and to IC Network myself, we can't forget that we're not alone and our straight lays with one another.

D.V. (Deo volente)
God Willing

Adam

ICNDonna
03-16-2009, 03:20 AM
I'd just like to add another :welcome: to the IC Network family.

Donna

Go Hokies!
03-19-2009, 03:54 PM
Thanks everyone for the very warm welcomes! I really appreciate everyone's support!

I guess I didn't explain myself very well when I said I've never done a strict diet, it's because for the most part I didn't eat a lot of the stuff on the stuff to avoid list that I had been given a year ago from the nurse practitioner. It was pretty much tomato sauce and chocolate, which I did give up for a while. The only real result from giving up them was making me really mean and having bad headaches because I was so addicted to chocolate. I eat very little chocolate anymore but it took a lot of weaning off. After doing some more research I have found diets that have more things on the avoid lists that I am starting to follow, but it's really hard to find things left to eat. But I'll survive that. The good thing is my husband does a lot of the cooking and it's all from scratch so we are able to control what goes into a meal a little easier, and that way there are almost no preservatives, too.

I had an appointment with my urologist telling him that the Elivid wasn't helping with the pain. So tomorrow I go back for a shot of DMSO. He also gave me some samples of Vesicare to help with the leaking. I hope this works. He told me that a side effect of the DMSO was smelling like garlic for about 24 hours, so I've been making jokes about that to keep my spirits high. The Vesicare does seem to be working which is very good news for me.