So enraged and scared PLEASE WE NEED PRAYERS

[crkshnks79]

My fiance has worked his butt off for an EMS transport company for almost 2 years now . They have done some shady things to their employees for instance 1: they own 2 companies the transport one and I think the second co is in reality , anyway , one of the emts hurt her back a lil while ago while on duty . She went to collect temporary disability for it and was denied because they said that " she was hurt outside her scoop of practice " so she investigated . Here she finds out the guys who owns company "A" that she works for has her listed as a realitor so that they dont have to put out workmens comp for the emts !!!! What kind of messed up :cussing: is that ?!! So now that you have a pic of what this company is like , my fiance was doing a transport on monday w his partner that he has been with for over a year . The patient they were transporting was to go to a facility that was across a 40 ft long walkway ( the walkway was the pavement connecting the 2 facilites ), so they decided ( and it is their call to choose the safest way to transport a patient ) that it would be safer to walk her on a stretcher to the facility instead of driving down a steep hill , having to do a 3 point turn in traffic , then coming back up around the hill and around the original building . The reason for the transport in the first place was this woman was supoosed to be bed ridden . Well the patient hopped ( yes hopped ) out of her bed wlaked across the room and then hopped onto thier stretcher . The patient then proceeded to tell them that the nurses are too lazy to take her themselves and that is why they called transport ( by the way this is rumored to be crappy nursing facility ) so they asked the patient is she would mind being walked to thier destination that would take less then 5 fives mins or if she wanted to go in the ambulance , she said go for the walk . Well midway thru the walk this woman comes up screaming at my fiance and his partner about what they are doing , never identifies herself , and proceeds to rip the patients clipboard ( which has info on the transport in question ) away from his partner and makes a huge scene . They didnt argue w her because by this time people were gathering watching this and the patient was getting upset . They finish the run . Well on their way to the next call , dispatch calls them back into base and tells them that the women called their boss and freaked out and that they can go home for the day , the co didnt mention suspension , just told them to check if they were on the schedule for the next day and that the base manager would call them later that day and tell them what was going on . This happened mon ... it is now almost thurs and they are still not on the schedule for the week !!! No one is returning their calls and they dont know if they were fired or suspended or what the heck is going on !!! Who runs a company this way ??? How do you not call or return your best employees calls and let them know what in the sams hell is going on ??? My fiance has never in 2 yrs has had a complaint , on the contrary him and his partner are often requested because they are so good w the patients . And this company doesnt have the decency to let them know if they are still employed ??!?!?! Can anyone tell me if the company can get in trouble for this ? It seems so wrong !!!
Im out of work because of the IC now , Im on temporary leave , if he loses his job , we have nothing !!! We have 3 children to take care of , what the heck are we supposed to do ? Why cant they just tell him whats going on so the worry isnt eating away at him ? at me ? OMG I HATE THIS PLACE SO MUCH !!! they treat their employees like :cussing: I have half a mind to blast them in the towns paper in the sound off section and then call OSCHA ( I think thats right ?) to tell them about what illegal crap they pull ALL THE TIME They have someone at the department of health who tips them off when their ambulances are about to be inspected , because more then 3/4 of the ambulances are considered illegal on the road !!! So they never get in trouble for it , they just keep the few vehicles that can pass inspection in the lot and put all the bad ones out on the street that day !! When employees have reported this and other infractions to the Department of health , the company never gets in trouble for it. It's **! They fire people all the time for made up reasons , and no one ever fights them on it and I dont understand why ?

Please say a prayer for my finance !!! That as sucky as this company is ,its our main income and we cant survive w out it !! Please say a prayer that all works out for the best , if he does lose his job that he can find a another one w round about same pay fast , so that we dont get evicted and have to live on the streets , or go hungry . Please says prayers Im so angry but most of all Im REALLY scared what will happen with all this and my kids . Even if I go back to work and work 7 days a week it probably wont be enough for us to live on .... Im sorry for the long rant , but Im a fixer and I dont know how to fix this for him or our family , please help :help:

PS My best friend whose son just got done having cancer , has a possible brain mass , please pray that its not it , that her horrible headaches are something else !!!

[hdb1982]

I would say that instead of him calling he needs to make a trip down there, in person, and demand to know what is going on. whatever decision they give him, make sure he makes them put it in writing. That way if he is fired, he can make an unemployment claim and doesn't have to worry about them coming back and saying he quit. Have him ask the hr person, or whoever gives him an answer, to put the reason for termination in writing. If they won't do that then at least something like "Jim Bob's employment with "Company A" has been terminated effective 07/28/2008"

[leelee88]

Lauren sounds like you need a ((((hug)))) and of course many prayers headed your way..:pray:

[turnaround]

I am sending prayers your way. I agree your fiance should go down in person. Am praying for all of you.

[Claredale]

I am also praying for you.

Also, it's OSHA and I would definitely give them a call as well as make sure your fiance's company puts it in writing. I don't know the laws in Pennsylvania, but I would see about at least talking to an attorney.

Again, the laws are different everywhere, but if they have a license to run an ambulance service they have to have records on their business practice even if it was "shady". They have to have certification to transport patients. It may be a tough road, but I would start being a bulldog and digging up info. They had to have insurance to operate a medical transportation company, so there should be some records somewhere. Plus they are required to list job codes for their employees on their worker's comp policy because different types of jobs are coded by the amount of risk of injury. For instance an office worker, would be coded say a 1 and a policeman would be coded a 5. If they have their EMTs illegally coded, there has to be records such as the job application, run records, etc to pull up to prove what their employee's job functions are. There has to be some way that the employee that was hurt can prove they had EMT's working for them and working in the scope of their business. I am tired now, so I am able to think really hard on this, but for her, I wouldn't let that just drop. I worked at a daycare before and another employee was injured and they tried to say they were a church daycare, therefore "non-profit" so they didn't have to have workers' comp insurance. They weren't too happy when I printed off the info from Tennessee's OSHA website that showed they had to have coverage no matter what as long as they had 5 or more employees on the payroll. They were fined a pretty hefty amount for that. I dared them to fire me at that point. I did leave a few months later to go back into office work. I was spending more money than I made trying to have appropriate toys for 2 year olds to play with. If those parents really knew how that daycare operated. I told a few parents that I knew well. The kids were at least taken care of, Anyway, I know that money is a factor here and I don't how the legal system works in your state.

But I would definitely contact the Better Business Bureau about the shady practices as well. I know we had a business in my city that operated as a "towing company", but they had many other "job opportunities" available. They had many people of influence being paid under the table to ignore it. They messed around and got caught finally. I wouldn't blast anything in the paper without proof, they could hold you liable. Let someone that knows how to investigate and has the legal understanding to step in.

[ICNDonna]

:pray:

Donna

[VickiB]

I'm sorry this is happening to you & your fiance. It sounds like 'shady' is a kind way of describing their business model! If your fiance goes down there and finds no resolution to the situation an attorney may be able to help.

I second what Tracey said about being careful what you put in print, regarding writing the newspaper.

Hang in there!

Vicki

[crkshnks79]

Hey everyone , my fiance was going to go there today but the boss finally called he back the company FIRED HIM !!! :cussing::cussing::cussing: He does have to get soething in writing though for the unemployment office and I guess Im going to go to the public assistance office and see what help they can give us . Tracey , thank you for all the advice , PA law dictates that an employer can fire a employee w out reason . SO technically he cant fight it . I dont know what we are going to do ?!?!?!?!? I dont understand why PA would have such a stupid :cussing: law , they should just give employers a certificate that says " do what ever the hell you want , your employees have no rights !!!" Im so scared right now for him and our family . I cant even think straight nothings coherent . Thank everyone who gave advice , I will get back to you when my mind isnt doing 360's . Please pray that this all works out !! I know when God closes a door he opens a window , by why does he always slam doors in our faces ?

[SharonA]

Lauren...I am so sorry. (((Hugs))) and :pray:

[hdb1982]

Unfortunately a lot of states are "at will employment states" which means they can fire you without reason and you can also quit without reason. In fact, I am not sure of any states that aren't like that. The only reason I said to get something in writing is because I had an employer fight my unemployment by saying I had quit. Had I not had an email from my supervisor saying otherwise I don't know what would have happened. I emailed and asked "I need to know why I was terminated. I did nothing wrong, have been a great employee etc. To come to work and my badge be inactive baffles me" He replied by saying "WV is at an will employment state, I don't have to justify my decision to terminate you. If I wake up one day and decide I want to fire everyone, I CAN". So that in itself said I was terminated. Also, if you are going to try and get state funded assistance it helps to show he isn't "voluntarily unemployed". That is was forced unemployment. They will require him to register with your state unemployment office, they do here anyway. You should also look into housing assistance if it seems he will be outta work for an extended period of time.
Although it doesn't seem like it now, I am a firm believer that everything happens for a reason. You may not see it now, but you will one day. Maybe there is a better opportunity out there he would have missed out on if he didn't loose his current job. You can miss out on a lot of great jobs because of the simple fact that most people don't look at job opportunities while they already have a job. He could find something with better pay, better benefits, great hours and in the end be so happy this happened. It may take a while but eventually you will see this as a good thing. You know how they say "when one door closes another one opens". I hope his door leads to a wonderful, secure and legitimate company. Unlike the company he just left.:grouphug:

[Claredale]

Tennessee is that way too. But at least my company does have a process to dispute issues. Its called the GFT (Guaranteed Fair Treatment) policy. I haven't seen anyone get fired, but I have seen it work for an employee that thought they deserved a promotion they didn't get. I couldn't believe she was given the promotion after all. But I lost it when she told me that they were even going to give her "radioactive pay". I didn't correct her that it was retro-active pay! I can see why she wasn't given the promotion at first! LOL!

I am worried about the poor girl that was injured. I guess working in that field, I knew very well how we had to report everything exactly right or we were fined when I worked for a large bank.

[sandymarie]

I will be sure to put you on the prayer list. I am so sorry you have to deal with this stress along with all the other things you are going thru.

JJ:pray::pray:

[crkshnks79]

[QUOTE=hdb1982;441043]Unfortunately a lot of states are "at will employment states" which means they can fire you without reason and you can also quit without reason. In fact, I am not sure of any states that aren't like that. The only reason I said to get something in writing is because I had an employer fight my unemployment by saying I had quit. Had I not had an email from my supervisor saying otherwise I don't know what would have happened. I emailed and asked "I need to know why I was terminated. I did nothing wrong, have been a great employee etc. To come to work and my badge be inactive baffles me" He replied by saying "WV is at an will employment state, I don't have to justify my decision to terminate you. If I wake up one day and decide I want to fire everyone, I CAN". So that in itself said I was terminated. Also, if you are going to try and get state funded assistance it helps to show he isn't "voluntarily unemployed". That is was forced unemployment. They will require him to register with your state unemployment office, they do here anyway. You should also look into housing assistance if it seems he will be outta work for an extended period of time.
Although it doesn't seem like it now, I am a firm believer that everything happens for a reason. You may not see it now, but you will one day. Maybe there is a better opportunity out there he would have missed out on if he didn't loose his current job. You can miss out on a lot of great jobs because of the simple fact that most people don't look at job opportunities while they already have a job. He could find something with better pay, better benefits, great hours and in the end be so happy this happened. It may take a while but eventually you will see this as a good thing. You know how they say "when one door closes another one opens". I hope his door leads to a wonderful, secure and legitimate company. Unlike the company he just left.:grouphug:[/QUOTE

I am a firm believer that everything happens for a reason as well , and I agree that maybe by this happening it could eventually lead to something better . Im trying to saty positive but it so scary w the economy the way it is right now , but your right this could be a chance for a better opportunity unseen by us just yet ! As for your boss email while he mightve had the law on his side that email made him sound like a pompous you know what ! I told my fiance that he needs to get it in writing not only for him but for me as well so I can prove to public assistance that he is not employed (:rant: still feeling very angry on his behalf !!!) Unfortunetly w housing assistance its a year long waiting list , so it cant give us immediate help , but I might put us down on the list anyway. I hope to God that this isnt a long term deal !!! If push came to shove we could move in w his parents but ugh I really dont want to do that !!! His parents and I are like oil and water , while we are completely polite to each other on the surface underneath there has been past bad blood between us and honestly I think living w them would make EVERYTHING LIFE worse and my children would be stuck in the middle of it . I still cant believe this happened !! But the one thing Im very good at , is staying level headed during crisis mood , the stress kills me later down the line but what can ya do ? Thank you for all the advice , I feel so lost ...

[crkshnks79]

Tennessee is that way too. But at least my company does have a process to dispute issues. Its called the GFT (Guaranteed Fair Treatment) policy. I haven't seen anyone get fired, but I have seen it work for an employee that thought they deserved a promotion they didn't get. I couldn't believe she was given the promotion after all. But I lost it when she told me that they were even going to give her "radioactive pay". I didn't correct her that it was retro-active pay! I can see why she wasn't given the promotion at first! LOL!

I am worried about the poor girl that was injured. I guess working in that field, I knew very well how we had to report everything exactly right or we were fined when I worked for a large bank.

Lol yeah I wouldnt understand how she got that promotion either ?? The girl who was injured didnt want to make a fuss , because she didnt want to lose the job , she couldnt afford too ! They out her on desk duty until she was deemed "fit " by the company doctors to go back to active duty. Its disgusting how she was manipulated , I hope someone finds something concrete and nails this company to the wall , they indeed deserve it !!!!

[crkshnks79]

Thank you for the prayers ! We need them so much now ! I hope that this all works out for the best , I do believe that this could be an opportunity for him to find something better . I just pray that it happens sooner rather then later so that we dont wind up hungry or on the street ! I know that this is not as important as imminent homelessness and hunger , but we also just put a 1,000.00 dollars down on our ceremony / reception place for our wedding next year . Its non refundable and now we might not beable to even get married depending on how this situation pans out and we will be out of the money we already put towards it . Ironically when we were looking at places to have our wedding , we talked about holding off on putting oney down on anything because his company was laying so many people off . But then his boss told him that his job was in NO DANGER whatsoever , that they needed more good workers like him HA! then a month later they axe him for a ** reason !!! If thats not irony kicking you in the butt I dont know what is !

[BrittanysDance]

I'm so sorry....

Hugs & prayers,
Brittany

[lisabar36]

I am so sorry. That is terrible. :pray::pray: I will be keeping you in my prayers. Any new news?

[Mel53H]

I would go to the PA labor board. I googled it and there is one in PA. You can complain and turn this company in, because it sounds like something is fishy going on there.

Good luck and hang in there. Something better will come along.