Distilled Water.. maybe, maybe not

[GinaGV]

Below is an article that was posted on another board I frequent and I found this interesting. I do not know these Doctors, nor do I know their practices, but take it at face value, as a topic for thought and discussion.

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by Zoltan P. Rona MD, MSc
During nearly 19 years of clinical practice I have had the opportunity to observe the health effects of drinking different types of water. Most of you would agree that drinking unfiltered tap water could be hazardous to your health because of things like parasites, chlorine, fluoride and dioxins. Many health fanatics, however, are often surprised to hear me say that drinking distilled water or purified water on a regular, daily basis is potentially dangerous. Paavo Airola wrote about the dangers of purified water in the 1970's when it first became a fad with the health food crowd.

Distillation is the process in which water is boiled, evaporated and the vapor condensed. Reverse osmosis or purified water is free of dissolved minerals and, because of this, has the special property of being able to actively absorb toxic substances from the body and eliminate them. Studies validate the benefits of drinking purified water when one is seeking to cleanse or detoxify the system for short periods of time (a few weeks at a time). Fasting using purified water can be dangerous because of the rapid loss of electrolytes (sodium, potassium, chloride) and trace minerals like magnesium, deficiencies of which can cause heart beat irregularities and high blood pressure. Cooking foods in distilled water pulls the minerals out of them and lowers their nutrient value.

Purified water is an active absorber and when it comes into contact with air, it absorbs carbon dioxide, making it acidic. The more purified water a person drinks, the higher the body acidity becomes. According to the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, "Purified" water, being essentially mineral-free, is very aggressive, in that it tends to dissolve substances with which it is in contact. Notably, carbon dioxide from the air is rapidly absorbed, making the water acidic and even more aggressive. Many metals are dissolved by distilled water.

The most toxic commercial beverages that people consume (i.e. cola beverages and other soft drinks) are made from purified water. Studies have consistently shown that heavy consumers of soft drinks (with or without sugar) spill huge amounts of calcium, magnesium and other trace minerals into the urine. The more mineral loss, the greater the risk for osteoporosis, osteoarthritis, hypothyroidism, coronary artery disease, high blood pressure and a long list of degenerative diseases generally associated with premature aging.

A growing number of health care practitioners and scientists from around the world have been advocating the theory that aging and disease is the direct result of the accumulation of acid waste products in the body. There is a great deal of scientific documentation that supports such a theory. A poor diet may be partially to blame for the waste accumulation. Meats, sugar, white flour products, fried foods, soft drinks, processed foods, alcohol, dairy products and other junk foods cause the body to become more acidic. Stress, whether mental or physical can lead to acid deposits in the body.

There is a correlation between the consumption of soft water (purified water is extremely soft) and the incidence of cardiovascular disease. Cells, tissues and organs do not like to be dipped in acid and will do anything to buffer this acidity including the removal of minerals from the skeleton and the manufacture of bicarbonate in the blood. The longer one drinks distilled water, the more likely the development of mineral deficiencies and an acid state. I have done well over 3000 mineral evaluations using a combination of blood, urine and hair tests in my practice. Almost without exception, people who consume purified water exclusively, eventually develop multiple mineral deficiencies. Those who supplement their purified or distilled water intake with trace minerals are not as deficient but still not as adequately nourished in minerals as their non-purified water drinking counterparts even after several years of mineral supplementation.

Purified water tends to be acidic and can only be recommended as a way of drawing poisons out of the body. Once this is accomplished, the continued drinking of purified water is a bad idea.

Alkaline ionized Water is the best possible drinking water. Disease and early death is more likely to be seen with the long term drinking of purified or distilled water. Avoid it except in special circumstances.

Dr Theodore Baroody, in his book "Alkalize or Die", offers a list of symptoms that may be precipitated by Acidosis:

Beginning Symptoms:
1. Acne
2. Agitation
3. Muscular pain
4. Cold hands and feet
5. Dizziness
6. Low energy
7. Joint pains that travel
8. Food allergies
9. Chemical sensitivities or odors, gas, heat
10. Hyperactivity
11. Panic attacks
12. Pre-menstrual and menstrual cramping
13. Pre-menstrual anxiety and depression
14. Lack of sex drive
15. Bloating
16. Heartburn
17. Diarrhea
18. Constipation
19. Hot urine.
20. Strong smelling urine
21. Mild headaches
22. Rapid panting breath
23. Rapid heartbeat
24. Irregular heartbeat
25. White coated tongue
26. Hard to get up
27. Excess Head mucus
28. Metallic taste in mouth

Intermediate Symptoms:
1. Cold sore (Herpes 1 & 11)
2. Depression
3. Loss of memory
4. Loss of concentration
5. Migraine headaches
6. 1nsomnia
7. Disturbance in smell, vision, taste
8. Asthma
9. Bronchitis
10. Hay Fever
11. Ear Aches
12. Hives
13. Swelling
14. Viral infections (cold, flu)
15. Bacterial Infections (staph, strep)
16. Fungal infections (candida albicans, athlete's foot, vaginal)
17. Impotence
18. Urethritis
19. Cystitis
20. Urinary infection
21. Gastritis
22. Colitis
23. Excessive failing hair
24. Psoriasis
25. Endemetriosis
26. Stuttering
27. Numbness and tingling
28. Sinusitis

Advanced Symptoms:
1. Crohn's disease
2. Schizophrenia
3. Learning Disabled
4. Hodgkin's Disease
5. Systemic Lupus Erythematosis
6. Multiple Sclerosis
7. Sarcoidosis
8. Rheumatoid arthritis
9. Myasthenia Gravis
10. Scieroderma
11. Leukaemia
12.Tuberculosis
13. All other forms of cancer

[GinaGV]

As a form of reply to that post I made earlier, is this rebuttal.It was posted on the orginial boards I got the first article from... again, take it for what it's worth.. I just wanna be out of pain like the rest of us do...


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Blowing The Lid Off Distilled Water Myths

By: Joe Letorney, Jr. (CWS-V)

Controversy always seems to shroud distilled water through the years. The same old myths and fallacies that were once heard ten to fifteen years ago still continue today. All the misconceptions about distillation and distilled water are grossly misrepresented.
All the myths listed below have no basis in fact. The purpose of this article is to set the record straight and lay these false perceptions to rest. Helping clear up these misconceptions about distilled water will greatly benefit both the dealer and the general public.

MYTH # 1: Distillation takes out all the beneficial minerals

This is a statement used countless times, usually from literature from some filter companies trying to tell you in effect, that their filters take out all the bad contaminants, but leave in the good, beneficial minerals. Fortunately, there are many reputable companies who would never think of making this kind of claim in its ads.
Distillation will kill and remove bacteria, viruses, cysts, as well as, heavy metals, radionuclides, organics, inorganics, and particulates. And yes, it will remove minerals, which fall under inorganic contaminants. Whether the minerals in water are beneficial or useless has been an ongoing debate.
All of our minerals are derived from our food: fresh fruits, vegetables, meat, poultry, grains, nuts, and dairy products. The minerals in water are so scant that in Boston, MA for example, one would have to drink 676 8-ounce glasses of tap water to obtain the Recommended Daily Allowance ( RDA) of calcium. That person would have to drink 1,848 8-ounce glasses to get RDA of magnesium, 848 8-ounce glasses to get RDA of iron, and 168,960 8-ounce glasses to obtain the RDA of phosphorus. It seems insane to even think about drinking that much water. Most people can't even drink the recommended 8 glasses of water a day that is widely touted by health experts.
When you think of pure water what definition comes to your mind? It should be just H20, and that's it. It's not H20 with minerals and fluoride, because that doesn't fit the description of pure water. For all intent and purposes, distilled water comes the closest to the definition of pure drinking water. The process of distillation removes the broadest range of contaminants over any other point of use (POU) system.

MYTH # 2: Distilled Water leaches minerals from your body.

What the proponents of this myth want you to believe is that because distilled water is so pure, drinking it will leach minerals from your body, thereby robbing you of good health and nutrition. There is no basis of fact to document this claim.
The national best-selling health and diet book, : "Fit for Life II: Living Health" by Harvey & Marilyn Diamond, answers this question. The following is an excerpt:

"Distilled water has an inherent quality. Acting almost like a magnet, it picks up rejected, discarded, and unusable minerals and, assisted by the blood and the lymph, carries them to the lungs and kidneys for elimination from the body. The statement that distilled water leaches minerals from the body has no basis in fact. It doesn't leach out minerals that have become part of the cell structure. It can't and won't. It collects only minerals that have already been rejected or excreted by the cells...To suggest that distilled water takes up minerals from foods so that the body derives no benefit from them is absurd."

MYTH # 3: Long continued drinking of distilled water
could cause deterioration of the teeth

I saw this statement in product literature from a national filter company. Shame on them for bad mouthing distillation just to sell a few more filters. This is a truly inventive falsification. The negative message this filter company wants to convey is that drinking distilled water (which has removed all traces of fluoride) for long periods, will supposedly wreak havoc on your teeth by deteriorating them. Where is the proof?

MYTH # 4: Distilled water tastes bland or has a ' flat taste '

This is probably the most popular myth surrounding distilled water. I've often read this statement from various articles written on water treatment systems. When the articles refer to distillation, they will usually say it removes the minerals that will leave a 'flat taste'. I'd be willing to bet that the authors of this type of articles never tasted freshly made distilled water from a home water distiller.
These types of false remarks misinform consumers so they have preconceived notions about distilled water before they even try it. The mistruth about distilled water having a 'flat taste' can be explained in several ways.
First, in years past, the original distillers did not incorporate any pre or post carbon filtration. If you've tasted straight distilled water made without the use of any pre or post carbon filtration, it might have a steamy taste or off taste. The use of carbon filtration with distillation is as follows: tap or well water is first sent through a pre filter to help take out chlorine, odors, sediment, and other organic contaminants before it reaches the boiling tank of the distiller. After the steam is condensed into distilled water it is finally passed through a carbon post filter to remove any potential gases or volatile organic contaminants (VOC'S) that might have escaped during the boiling process. Not using a post filter in the past with distillation might have produced an off taste in distilled water, due to these VOC'S. The carbon post filter is most important because it acts as a polishing filter to clean up any volatile gases, which can produce an off-taste, that may have escaped during the boiling process.
Second, another reason for distilled water having this label for 'flat taste' is someone accustomed to drinking chlorinated or well water high in iron content for a long time. When they are suddenly introduced to distilled water for the first time, it is a shock, noticeable to their taste buds. People raised on high iron in their well water for instance, would be used to its 'sweet' taste, but when given distilled water might say it tastes 'flat' since it is iron free.
Taste is the number one reason that consumers buy bottled water. It is a $4 billion market. Many consumers are led to believe that you need minerals in water to give it its taste. It is actually oxygen that gives water its taste. Water shouldn't have a taste or a metallic after bite. Try either a cold or room temperature glass of freshly made distilled water and taste the difference for yourself... It's delicious.
A third reason for the 'flat taste' theory is buying distilled water in the store. Distilled water, as virtually all bottled water, is stored in cheap plastic containers. Some have been known to leach methyl chloride, a carcinogen, into the water and also give off plastic tastes and odors. Water has been called the universal solvent, whatever it touches it will pick up. Distilled water being virtually 100% contaminant free might leach plastic tastes into the water from the inferior bottle its being stored in. Besides glass, consider buying bottles made from Lexan that won't give off any plastic tastes or odors.

MYTH # 5: Distilled water isn't effective against organic chemicals

VOC'S are organic chemicals that have lower boiling points than tap water, for e.g., benzene. When water is being boiled to 212 degrees Fahrenheit in the boiling tank, if VOC'S are present they will vaporize and rise up with the steam as a gas. Many distillers today utilize a volatile gas vent, which is a pin hole in the top of the condensing coils to vent off any unwanted gases. If the VOC's do happen to escape this vent, then the carbon post filter will trap them. Carbon pre treatment before distillation will remove a majority of chlorine and VOC'S, whereas the post filter is mainly used as a polishing filter. In cases of manual distillers, only post carbon filtration is used and is sufficient in removing VOC'S and unwanted gases.
I see this statement made all too often in advertising literature from different segments of the water industry. When they compare their system with distillation, they will say that theirs will remove nearly all the organic contaminants and distillation is weak on VOC removal. Why? Because they are telling you half the truth. Distillation without carbon filtration is not as effective in removing VOC'S by itself. Combining carbon filtration with distillation will boost removal rates to greater than 99% under normal conditions. In an actual highly spiked test, VOC'S were tested on a Durastill distiller system with carbon filtration. The results are shown below:

Volatile Organic Contaminants PARAMETER Quantity Spiked mg/l *EPA limit mg/l Times EPA Limit Spiked % of Removal with Filter
Benzene 0.500 .005 100 97.0
Trichloroethylene 1.00 .005 200 95.7
Trihalomethanes 66.7 0.10 667 99.85

* EPA- Environmental Protection Agency



As you can see, these test results were spiked tremendously beyond the EPA limits to show how the distiller with carbon filtration can remove an extreme amount of contaminants.
Today, carbon filtration is standard with all home distillation systems on the market, making it a complete system by removing a wider range of contaminants, including VOC'S.

MYTH # 6: Distillers are expensive to run

Home distillers take about 3 kilowatts to make 1 gallon of distilled water. On the basis of the Unites States average of 7.8 cents per kilowatt hour, that's around 24 cents to make 1 gallon. Is 25 cents a gallon too much to pay for pure distilled water made fresh in your home? Compared to buying bottled distilled water from the store that can cost you anywhere from 89 cents up to $1.29 per gallon. Making your own distilled water is very cost effective. Why buy the milk when you can have the cow at home. Taking an example of buying 5 gallons of distilled water a week at a $1.00 per gallon average, you're spending $260 per year. If you made your own distilled water at 25 cents per gallon, that would amount to $65 per year for electrical costs. That is a savings of 75% on the cost of buying bottled distilled water. Amortization of the initial purchase of the distiller can be made in a short time.
Maintenance of a distiller is changing pre and/or post carbon filters about every 6 - 12 months and periodically draining out the residue left over from the boiling process. If there is a heavy scale build-up accumulating in the boiling tank, there are cleaning agents available. The two most popular cleaners; citric acid and sulfamic acid, a stronger agent, are recommended to soften and loosen up the scale.


Conclusion

It's time to set the record straight about distilled water myths. There is a definite need for the home distiller market in the industry and consumers have a right to know the correct facts concerning distilled water. Here are some points to remember:

* Distillation, when combined with carbon filtration, will kill and remove virtually 100% of bacteria, viruses, cysts, and will remove heavy metals, inorganics; including minerals, radionuclides, particulates, and organics; including VOC'S.

* Over 95% of our minerals come from our food and less than 5% from drinking water. You would practically have to drown yourself by drinking it to get the RDA of any beneficial minerals.

* Pure water refers to water that is H2O, and that's it! It's not H20 with calcium, iron, fluoride, etc... Distilled water comes the closest to this definition.

* Distilled water will not leach minerals from your body. There has never been any documented evidence to prove this claim true. It is perfectly safe to drink.

* Long term drinking of distilled water is not deleterious to your teeth.

* Distilled water does not taste bland or flat. Would hundreds of thousands of people worldwide be drinking it everyday if it didn't taste good?

* Distillers do not use up much electricity. Distillers will make 1 gallon for roughly 25 cents. Compared to bottled distilled water at around $1.00 or more per gallon, the savings are tremendous year after year.

Hopefully, the facts I've presented to expel the myths about distilled water will help the industry present distillation in its true light. There is an absolute need for various POU water treatment systems for the home market based on the needs of the consumer. Distillation is definitely one of them.

References:
Fit For Life II, Living Health: The Complete Program by
Harvey & Marilyn Diamond, pg. 101.

About The Author:
Joe Letorney Jr. is Vice President of Marketing for Durastill Export, Inc. and President of The Water Pro in Weymouth, MA. He received his B.S. degree in marketing from the University of Massachusetts. Letorney has over 15 years' experience in the distillation field and is a Certified Water Specialist (CWS-V). Comments may be directed to Letorney at P.O. Box 163, South Weymouth, MA 02190.

[ihurttoo]

Below is an article that was posted on another board I frequent and I found this interesting. I do not know these Doctors, nor do I know their practices, but take it at face value, as a topic for thought and discussion.

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by Zoltan P. Rona MD, MSc
During nearly 19 years of clinical practice I have had the opportunity to observe the health effects of drinking different types of water. Most of you would agree that drinking unfiltered tap water could be hazardous to your health because of things like parasites, chlorine, fluoride and dioxins. Many health fanatics, however, are often surprised to hear me say that drinking distilled water or purified water on a regular, daily basis is potentially dangerous. Paavo Airola wrote about the dangers of purified water in the 1970's when it first became a fad with the health food crowd.

Distillation is the process in which water is boiled, evaporated and the vapor condensed. Reverse osmosis or purified water is free of dissolved minerals and, because of this, has the special property of being able to actively absorb toxic substances from the body and eliminate them. Studies validate the benefits of drinking purified water when one is seeking to cleanse or detoxify the system for short periods of time (a few weeks at a time). Fasting using purified water can be dangerous because of the rapid loss of electrolytes (sodium, potassium, chloride) and trace minerals like magnesium, deficiencies of which can cause heart beat irregularities and high blood pressure. Cooking foods in distilled water pulls the minerals out of them and lowers their nutrient value.

Purified water is an active absorber and when it comes into contact with air, it absorbs carbon dioxide, making it acidic. The more purified water a person drinks, the higher the body acidity becomes. According to the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, "Purified" water, being essentially mineral-free, is very aggressive, in that it tends to dissolve substances with which it is in contact. Notably, carbon dioxide from the air is rapidly absorbed, making the water acidic and even more aggressive. Many metals are dissolved by distilled water.

The most toxic commercial beverages that people consume (i.e. cola beverages and other soft drinks) are made from purified water. Studies have consistently shown that heavy consumers of soft drinks (with or without sugar) spill huge amounts of calcium, magnesium and other trace minerals into the urine. The more mineral loss, the greater the risk for osteoporosis, osteoarthritis, hypothyroidism, coronary artery disease, high blood pressure and a long list of degenerative diseases generally associated with premature aging.

A growing number of health care practitioners and scientists from around the world have been advocating the theory that aging and disease is the direct result of the accumulation of acid waste products in the body. There is a great deal of scientific documentation that supports such a theory. A poor diet may be partially to blame for the waste accumulation. Meats, sugar, white flour products, fried foods, soft drinks, processed foods, alcohol, dairy products and other junk foods cause the body to become more acidic. Stress, whether mental or physical can lead to acid deposits in the body.

There is a correlation between the consumption of soft water (purified water is extremely soft) and the incidence of cardiovascular disease. Cells, tissues and organs do not like to be dipped in acid and will do anything to buffer this acidity including the removal of minerals from the skeleton and the manufacture of bicarbonate in the blood. The longer one drinks distilled water, the more likely the development of mineral deficiencies and an acid state. I have done well over 3000 mineral evaluations using a combination of blood, urine and hair tests in my practice. Almost without exception, people who consume purified water exclusively, eventually develop multiple mineral deficiencies. Those who supplement their purified or distilled water intake with trace minerals are not as deficient but still not as adequately nourished in minerals as their non-purified water drinking counterparts even after several years of mineral supplementation.

Purified water tends to be acidic and can only be recommended as a way of drawing poisons out of the body. Once this is accomplished, the continued drinking of purified water is a bad idea.

Alkaline ionized Water is the best possible drinking water. Disease and early death is more likely to be seen with the long term drinking of purified or distilled water. Avoid it except in special circumstances.

Dr Theodore Baroody, in his book "Alkalize or Die", offers a list of symptoms that may be precipitated by Acidosis:

Beginning Symptoms:
1. Acne
2. Agitation
3. Muscular pain
4. Cold hands and feet
5. Dizziness
6. Low energy
7. Joint pains that travel
8. Food allergies
9. Chemical sensitivities or odors, gas, heat
10. Hyperactivity
11. Panic attacks
12. Pre-menstrual and menstrual cramping
13. Pre-menstrual anxiety and depression
14. Lack of sex drive
15. Bloating
16. Heartburn
17. Diarrhea
18. Constipation
19. Hot urine.
20. Strong smelling urine
21. Mild headaches
22. Rapid panting breath
23. Rapid heartbeat
24. Irregular heartbeat
25. White coated tongue
26. Hard to get up
27. Excess Head mucus
28. Metallic taste in mouth

Intermediate Symptoms:
1. Cold sore (Herpes 1 & 11)
2. Depression
3. Loss of memory
4. Loss of concentration
5. Migraine headaches
6. 1nsomnia
7. Disturbance in smell, vision, taste
8. Asthma
9. Bronchitis
10. Hay Fever
11. Ear Aches
12. Hives
13. Swelling
14. Viral infections (cold, flu)
15. Bacterial Infections (staph, strep)
16. Fungal infections (candida albicans, athlete's foot, vaginal)
17. Impotence
18. Urethritis
19. Cystitis
20. Urinary infection
21. Gastritis
22. Colitis
23. Excessive failing hair
24. Psoriasis
25. Endemetriosis
26. Stuttering
27. Numbness and tingling
28. Sinusitis

Advanced Symptoms:
1. Crohn's disease
2. Schizophrenia
3. Learning Disabled
4. Hodgkin's Disease
5. Systemic Lupus Erythematosis
6. Multiple Sclerosis
7. Sarcoidosis
8. Rheumatoid arthritis
9. Myasthenia Gravis
10. Scieroderma
11. Leukaemia
12.Tuberculosis
13. All other forms of cancer

WOW!!!!!.....Just...WOW! I am amazed by what I just read! In reviewing the list of beginning, intermediate, and advanced symptoms, I either currently have or (have had in the past and resolved with surgery), ALL of the beginning symptoms except numbers 10 and 22. Then on the intermediate symptoms, I have had all of those or currently have all of them (again except the ones resolves by surgery), except for numbers 8, 17, 24, and 26. And then for the Advanced Symptoms, I have Lupus!

This is some pretty scary stuff!

I am just shocked that no one else has posted yet. Admittedly, this is not my particularly area of expertise. But, we do have several here who are very knowledgable about this sort of thing. I hope that they will see your post and mine and read them and post their thoughts as well. I would be very interested to see what their thoughts are about it.

Thank you SO MUCH for bringing this to my attention and to the attention of every one here. To be honest, Gina, I honestly am not knowledgeable enough (or smart enough) to know if there is something to this or not. But, I know that there are lots of women here who are, so, if they dont see this post, I will call their attention to it. I really think this is THAT important since 99.9% of us drink water all the time, and the other .01% ought to be! :tsk: :)

So, thank you again!!! You did a great thing for all of us posting this here!

Many hugs,
Amy