Protect your daughter!

[Tip and IBS]

HPV vaccination
program:

http://www.hpvontario.ca/?ovmtc=content&ovadid=8203017522

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[chantal nicole]

This might sound stupid for some but i really do wonder- I am almost 33yrs old. I haven't been sexually active yet. I actually wonder if i should get the vaccination. My best friend who is older is also a virgin. We didn't plan it that way, just didn't date much and haven't gotten any- doesn't mean we won't eventually.

[traceann]

I just read (wish I could remember where, ugh) that there's been a bit of controversy surrounding the vaccination and it's possible adverse reactions. There reportedly have been like 7 reports of deaths following HPV vaccination, dying of heart problems and/or blood clotting after receiving the vaccine,and some reported "neurological symptoms". There's been no hard and fast connections where they can say for sure it was the cause of the deaths etc, but it just kind of made me think about it!! :)

My opinion is do all the research you can on it and it's latest studies etc! Can't hurt to be safe!!! ;)

[Claredale]

I had sons and have been married (and both faithful for almost 25 years) so I haven't read much about HPV, but I have friends with daughters that are already talking about allowing their daughters to have the vaccination. What I know is just what I heard about it on the Today Show. Please research it as Tracey suggested.

T83 (another Tracey who cares)

[dancemomof2]

I am a very firm believer in this injection. After tons and tons of research and going threw cervical cancer biopies out the ying yang and a complete hysterectomy and still having abnormal paps in the vaginal cuff I never want my child to go threw this heart ache and fear that I lived with in between testing and still going though. Next biopsy is Dec 3rd. My 15 year old just finsihed her 3rd in the serious of injections and my other daughter will start them next summer. The data on all vaccines is a luck of the draw as to how one will react. As a mother I feel it is my duty to protect my girls from anything I can. As a lol 'retired" med tech I have done my own research and decided the benefits so outway the risks. This is every parents own personal choice to make, but a good one like all vaccines to look into.

[Tip and IBS]

My cousin has died from ovarian cancer few years ago.

It must have been cause by this horrible disease.

[hdb1982]

what does a med tech do?

[ICNDonna]

The job of med tech can vary depending on the medical facility and of the specific department where they work.

Donna

[Sally939]

I have not research the side effects of it but love the idea of it. I am 29 and still am close to my high school friends. Sadly, most of us have had an abnormal pap due to HPV. Some of us that have had abnormal paps due to HPV have been on the prudish side. Just goes to show STD's do not discriminate. HPV does not cause ovarian cancer. HPV can cause genital warts, pre cancerous cervical cells, and cervical cancer. I am lucky to have only had one abnormal pap. What I find very interesting that a rep that I know in the GYN Pap industry has shared that HPV in my age group is so ramped that the industry is writing us off. Another word, they are not performing the test on us to identify which type of HPV we have (they will perform these test on older women). Ins will also not pay for our vacancies because it is believed that most of us already have it. If the side effect profile is low (again have not researched it) I would jump all over this. I believe the vaccine protects you from the four most common hpv strains??

[Michelle in KC]

My Emilee is 15 and will be 16 in April. I know she is not sexually active yet, because she doesn't get away from us to have a chance. I also believe that since my daughter knows all about my mistakes in my youth, she will wait for awhile. We are also Christians and she believes it is wrong to have sex before marriage.

I am confused on this vaccination. I hear good things, but they're on the commercials that are paid for BY the company making the vaccine. I hear bad things, and then back and forth and back and forth.

WHERE can I go to get true, complete information??

[dancemomof2]

My daughters are not sexually active but sooner or later will be and may be effected at some point in the their life and I am willing to protect them way before hand

When I was a med tech I did anything from dip urines to file charts. Later got tired of that went on to be a medical coder.

[ICNDonna]

Michelle, I think it would be a good idea to talk with your doctor. My girls are all adults now and too old for the vaccine, but you might try thinking of it as added protection just in case. We don't hesitate at all to protect our children from such things as diptheria, whooping cough, tetanus --- even if we have never met anyone with any of those diseases. I'm thinking it won't be many years before this new one will be a routine precaution just like the other ones we don't hesitate on.

Donna

[Claredale]

I was talking to my co-worker just a few minutes ago and my husband about this situation this morning and we know our sons grew up with Christian morals, but that doesn't keep anyone from making the wrong choices. I know my older son and DIL waited, but I couldn't tell you what my younger son was doing for anything right now. He is a great kid with big plans for his future. He is very much into computers and all that Information Technology stuff, but I also know that he has girlfriends that are very sweet and very involved in church and with their family, but there is always that chance. He has made his promise to wait, but I have seen plenty of kids make that same promise every year during their teens and things don't always go the way they planned. I know now that if I would have had daughters, I would have done the research and talked to my daughters about this. I have plenty of Christian friends whose daughters have had the series of shots. Their daughters know this doesn't give them the freedom to make wrong decisions, they still want wait until they are married. My friend here are work just started her daughter on her first shots. There is no way her daughter is even thinking about sex right now, she is so much into sports and with a parent or her parent's friends most of the time and wants soccer to be her way into college, but they aren't taking any chances.

You can't watch them constantly. My kids know my history too, and even as Christians, we make mistakes.

[Michelle in KC]

Boy, you are SURE right about now being able to watch them constantly. My sister's youngest daughter, Brooke, is only 2 1/2 weeks older then my Emilee and she's not a virgin. Of course, there are no rules at my sisters house. Don't get me started on THAT. Anyway, I'll talk to Nurse Marty when she's back from maternity leave. She ought to be back pretty soon. :)

[Sally939]

It does not take sex to get HPV. In some cases it just takes skin to skin contact to spread HPV. I am pretty sure that your young daughters are not sexually active if you do not think they are. But teenagers do not tell their parents everything by far. However, at some point regardless pre marriage or post marrage they will be. HPV is truely rampid and most people that have it do not know. Guys that have HPV are only carriers unless they have one of the strains that causes genital warts. There are two types of HPV (many strains). One classification causes genital warts the other is more serious and causes abnormal cells (can cause cervical cancer) Just wanted to add that I and my six friends were raised in the church. I know one girl that got it from her husband and she waited untill they were married. I think speaking to the doctor and getting the facts would be a good idea.

[dancemomof2]

You are so right Curls and that is a very important thing to remember. It only takes skin to skin contact not just sex.

[Claredale]

See I didn't know that. I knew about the boys being carriers, but not the skin to skin. I will be sure to have a informative chat with my 21 year old. He is very outspoken, but I am sure that he doesn't share what mama doesn't need to know with me. Even though I still see him as my sweet little baby with curly blonde har and blue eyes. I know he is a man off at college now. We all hope our kids stay true to their promise, expecially when I saw my older son get married and how they were so sweet about waiting, but I don't feel it's my place to judge at all, just keep them informed, my hopes and wishes as well as God's promise known and that I am always available. I think thats the best we can do as parents.

[dancemomof2]

http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd-vac/hpv/hpv-vacsafe-effic.htm

Here is some infor from the Center for Disease Control. may answer a few ?? for you Michelle.

T83 with kids you can never be to careful.

[Sally939]

It my understanding that only the strains that cause genital warts is spread from skin to skin contact. To clarify, it has to be skin that has the warts to skin in that area down there. I do know that genital warts are not always something that can be seen with the naked eye. They can be very small in a hidden place. Some strains cause both genital warts and cervical displasia. What is even more scary to me is that you do not have to tell your partners if you have cervical displasia. Again, according to them HPV is so rampid in my age group that the medical community accepts the idea that the majority of us have been exposed. The idea of saving the next generation from this fear is wonderful, but ONLY if it is safe. More impotantly it is very important to encourage all women to have annual paps. It is not fun but I believe that with propper medical attention most cases of cervical displasia can be treated succesfully. I think it is more important that we here with IC encourage each other to keep up with our paps. Having an exam with IC is even less fun. Personally, I get sick of all the doctor appointments and exams. It is easy to put it off.

[Sally939]

Hey, sorry if I come off like I am on my soap box. I did a lot of research on the topic a few years ago. I tend to get very pastionate about medical issues. Sadly, I got on my high horse with a pharmacy the other day. I was very nice and friendly about it. This pharmacy is one of the most expensive pharmacy chains in my area. This chain location is in a wealthy area of the city. I went in to get my scipts. I use them sometimes because of the convienance. I asked to use the restroom and they said they did not have a public restroom. I asked for the manager and explain that I have IC a chronic bladder condition and that I just purchases x amount of scripts with one (elmiron) being a monthly script at approxamatly $400 a month. I went on to explain that I found it insulting that they would take my money to treat a bladder condition but not have a restroom that their customers could use. I got to use the restroom. I know I should have just kept my mouth shut and that they do not need to offer public restrooms but I was in a mood. As for HPV, I think we all should make our own oppinion about it.

[Tip and IBS]

Curl333,you are absolutly correct about asking for a bathroom access.

I may also get involve with a group for better access bathroom.

Regarding my cousin.YES it must have been cervical cancer from this STD.
Horrible.She was 30 years old when she died.Her father(my uncle) took a hit when she pass away.SO MUCH PAIN.

Pray for my uncle.I've heard recently that he suffer from chronic fainting.You bet,after all the stress he has been through.:mad:

[tigger_gal]

I have a 19 year old, that declned it because ony the gyn gives them and she being a virgin didn't think it was necessary, Hope one day soon she goes and ges it done. It should be mandatory.

[dancemomof2]

Tig any health dept will andminister them, no GYN exam needed. Check it out there.

[BBB]

Wow, thank you everyone for all of the good information. Curl and Dance, a special note of thanks. When I first started reading this thread, I read the first couple of posts and then went on to a different thread as it really was not applicable to me. One, I am 40 and two I don't have a cervix.

Then, while falling to sleep last night the subject entered into my head. Was I crazy, of course it pertained to me as I have a 5 year old daughter. Now, I don't have to make a decision for several years, however I do need to be aware and follow the issue.

Everyone needs to make their own decision, however in my opinion, I will definitely have Morgan do the series of shots. I am even thinking by the time she is old enough for the shots they might be mandatory. Who knows?

In any event, with the alternative being getting HPV, I think it is in Morgan's best interest to have the shots with the sex issues being a seperate discussion.

Thank you again for the wealth of information and the open discussion.
Betsy

[dancemomof2]

Your Welcome Betsy. Glad you came back to the post.

[Claredale]

Tig, has your daughter been checked out by a gynecologist yet? Even though she is virgin, she needs to start having her yearly exams. I have a friend from highschool that had pre-cancerous cells that she had to have frozen off. If she would have waited, she could have had cervical cancer before she even graduated from college. She had a terrible case of acne and had to go on that med that required her to be on birth control pills (which she was so humiliated) but when she had her first pap test, she found out how lucky she was.

Tracey

[ICNDonna]

I have to agree with Tracey, Cindy. It's my understanding that HPV can be spread by other than sexual contact --- and there's also the fact that one day she will probably marry --- and there's the possibility that her husband could be a carrier.

In the end, it's her decision, but if it were my daughter, I'd urge her to be immunized.

Donna

[dancemomof2]

I agree with you both, nothing like early intervention, paps are so important. Young girls are usually so scarred of this visit but a very understanding Dr that specializes in teens is a great place to start them out. Mom's hand to hold is usually a great tool also.

[bladderGirl]

My cousin has died from ovarian cancer few years ago.

It must have been cause by this horrible disease.


HPV does not cause ovarian cancer, it is cervical cancer.

[Michelle in KC]

Ok, so I've been thinking. I am going to get Emilee vaccinated. It only takes one time. And, think about this, my daughter's friend, Amber, was raped at a rodeo! A Little Britches Rodeo!!! That could have exposed her to the virus. So, to be safe, I am going to have her shot. (have her shot ... hehe)

[dancemomof2]

:woohoo: Michelle

[Sally939]

That is great. About the poor other girl, how sad and sick. I hope that at the worst she was exposed to only HPV. There are much scarier things out there. But, I bet someone that got Cancer would say I am crazy.