Have Quecertin with Bromelain

[nsmith4366]

Okay - couldn't do the Algonot / olive oil (any kind) is high oxalate / not on my diet...got Quecertin with Bromelain...afraid of the Bromelain...might start with w 1/2 tablet...and work up. Scared (Bromelain) is a blood thinner...I'm not on other meds so should be okay...

Anyone tried this combination? Its from NOW products. Capsule form...no other ingredient that might concern me in it.

I'm taking it for my allergies and bladder sensitivity. Before or after meals?
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UPDATE!!! HUGE FLARE FROM NOW BRAND QUECERTIN AND BROMELAIN! Took 1/2 capsule it at 10am ...flared at noon --lasted until 4pm.

[mela414]

Wow.......I hope that you are better today. I was thinking about trying that too but was afraid of the bromelain. Do you think that's what did it?
I wasn't able to take Algonot either.

[nsmith4366]

Definately, definately...and you know how I know? I once tried "Jay Robb Egg Protein Powder". ALL it contains is the egg whites and BROMELAIN. Talk about FLARE!!! :evilsmile

Well, I've finally learned. :woohoo: Now I'm out to find Quecertin / non-citrus without the bromelain!

Know of any?:confused:

[mela414]

Well...now keep away from it!
Please let me know if you find quercitin without the bromelain.
I seem to remember reading somewhere that you can buy quercitin alone....it doesn't come that way. Do't remember why though.
Take care,

[mela414]

sorry, I meant that you CAN'T buy it alone.
I'll do some research to.

[nsmith4366]

Edited to remove advertising.

[mela414]

Hope you are better today. I checked out that link that you sent and it seems promising! Please let me know if you here back from them. I would be willing to give it a try. Let's pray that we can tolerate the quercitin alone!

[nsmith4366]

Citrus source or Non-citrus source?

AN ANSWER - **** IS NON-CITRUS!!!

Dear NSMITH4366:

Our quercetin is derived from non-citrus sources.
Regards,
John O'Connor
Technical Support
Jarrow Formulas, Inc.

AND GOT THIS THIS MORNING

Most quercetin comes from citrus rind but ours comes from
Saphora Japonica,
a tree in China/Japan.
Thank you for your email,
Life Enhancement Products, Inc.

[mela414]

Boy, that was fast!
Are you going to order it? Sounds like it might be safe.:smile tee

[nsmith4366]

Yes! But I'm waiting to hear from Life Enhancement company too. Then I'll decide whether I want it in the 500mg or the lesser amount per pill (LE brand)...

[nsmith4366]

Got if from Jarrow. Scared to try it, but will tomorrow. They say non-citrus. Fingers crossed...I need an antihistamine!!!

[mela414]

OK....fingers are crossed, legs and toes are too!!!
please let us know how you make out.
good luck:smile tee

[nsmith4366]

I guess that would be me. Yep, I try the Quercetin tomorrow. Another on my list to try is NAG glucosamine...I'm so fed up with my allergies..with the bladder -- the pain -- the whole thing. I'll update as things go along. Will take it at 10am if the bladder is "behaving"...then by the pm I'll know. Usually with medications/supplements its only hours until I know...foods take longer to digest...and don't flare me as fast it seems.

[Dianne]

I can tolerate NAG and I can't tolerate anything. Glucosamine sulphate is out of the question but NAG I can do.

[Zygala87]

Hi. Is the Product you are talking about Bladder Q? I just ordered some and have not received it yet. Now I'm nervous that I may have made a mistake. Why would a company advertise a product saying that it helps many people with IC if it would in reality put them into a flare. They are a good company and I'm sure would take it back if I'm unable to take it. I will read the label with care. Ziggy

[mela414]

I usually know within 2 hours if I am going to react! I never know how long the flare will last or how bad it will be. lately, my bladder has been pretty angry that I have to inspecit everything. And of ocurse, something will get by me anyway.....:(
OK nsmith....you should be attempting the quercitin soon. I pray that you are OK with it.
dianne, how does the NAG help you? sa for the glucosomine that you took.....I can take anything that is sulphated. Could that be the reason why you reacted? I also can't do anything that is citrated! It really is difficult to find thingfs that we can take. We are all so different.

[nsmith4366]

Okay - Quercetin WITHOUT THE BROMELAIN. :woohoo:
Trying (me a chicken) a whole 1/2 a pill (250 mg)...
...in a few hours I'll know. :confused:

Yikes. Update later tonight. I hate this kind of thing.

[mela414]

good luck...please let us know how you are!

[nsmith4366]

Okay

Here it is. NO flare from Quecertin no Bromelain (jarrow brand). That is no flare YET. I'm sequestered off in a low - allergen room for the day - you see I have severe allergies / and THAT sets off my bladder (not IC) which is why I'm taking this...Quecertin...naturally for the antihistamine action since I've been completely unable to take anything else. Hey hey...good news so far...when I took it I was in a mini-environmental flare from allergen exposure. Now...none of that. NO flare - yet. Wow - fingers crossed. This horrific allergy I have affects bladder/bowel - my skin, my sleep, I've developed asthma now...you name it. I'm taking allergy shots/but results from THAT won't show for months...okay - I decided to try this...might be my saving grace ?:pray: I won't take any more today and won't change my location until 8pm tonight. Now I may order the Life Enhancement Brand instead - since it comes in 350mg tablets...and I may not need more than that...but the jury is still OUT, though looking more positive by the moment here. If this works for me, I'll repeat it exactly as I did today on Monday. I get my allergy shot on Monday - so that should make it all the more interesting.

[swarr]

I took some quercitin today hoping that it would help my allergies and my bladder started acting up (pain). I have not had my bladder act up since last year. I was taking the cystoprotek for awhile and it did help my allergies and it has quercitin in it, so I have no clue whats up. I,m thinking of asking my dr for vistaril. I hope you ladies have good luck with it.

Oh, I also read that quercetinis a member of the vitamin p, bioflavinoid family,it is a potent antioxidant. Found in red and yellow onions, grapes italian squash, it is believed to be one of the most anticancer substances discovered to date. It helps to stop cancer at its earliest stage by preventing the damaging changes in the cells that initiate cancer, and also aids in inhibiting the spread of cancer cells. Additionally, quercetin has been shown to block the release of histamines and be an effective treatment for allergies and inflammatory disorders. (From Earl Mindells vitamin bible.)

[nsmith4366]

SWARR --- What exactly was it you took (Quercetin)...please let me know ALL the ingredients and amounts. Also - do you know who the manufacturer was, was it (for sure) NON-citrus? How was it encapsulated? DO TELL.

Okay. My mother has lung cancer. I have SEVERE allergies and a bladder that ACTS like IC / I'm trying the Quecertin NO BROMELAIN...it could help with SO many things in me if it works. So far - just don't know. Took it in pm and eve - pain at night. But more intestinal pain/like bad digestion...

might have been stomach upset...too much lettuce (IBS-D). Took this AM, bladder PAIN, but not FLARE pain...and no frequency/urgency/bloating like I'd expect with a flare...HOWEVER - I got my dreaded allergy shot this am...and that always hurts the bladder too.

Won't know til later on I guess, later in the week or after I take it a few more times...I have high hopes...maybe too high...still not convinced this is the cuprit...stay tuned.

[mela414]

Hi nsmith:hi: ,
I have a lot of allergies too.........and suffer with so many physical complaints from them. I definately feel that it makes my fibro worse! I would love to know how you do with the quercitin. When you say that your allergies sets of the bladder (not IC) ....what do you mean? Do the allergens cause you pain? Have they done a cysto/hydro on you? Just curious....because my hydro/cysto revealed severe IC....with lots of areas of bleeding. When I saw the photos I freaked out. I'm finally making the connection with the allergies and IC.....through learning things on this site. Of course, I get worsening of bladder pain from offending food and drink so stick to the diet as best as I can. I am so afraid to try new things but would consider the quercitin too for the help that it could possibly give all around.
I pray:pray: that it does not cause you to flare and hope that it will help your other symptoms. Please keep us posted.:)

[nsmith4366]

Have to re-post and earlier post here...

...for the 2nd day - PAIN about 6 hours after taking the Quercetin.
BUT yesterday - blamed the allergy shot - - today blaming my allergies themselves?

Not sure if it is the quercetin or not...trying to find the actual source of it now. Might change to another brand - as this brand might be from onions (as mentioned below)...and the life enhancement brand is not, its from a tree I believe.

Most quercetin comes from citrus rind but ours comes from
Saphora Japonica,
a tree in China/Japan.
Thank you for your email,
Life Enhancement Products, Inc.


I won't give up on this yet...

[swarr]

Quercetin, non citrus, solaray brand. I guess I must be allergic. I have taken the cystoprotek without a problem. This is the first medication that has given me problems. When I looked it up in the book of vitamins, it said that some quercetin comes from onions. In my earlier IC period onions gave me trouble so that may be why.

[swarr]

nsmith,

I tried to pm you and your box is full.

[mela414]

nsmith, did you thry the other quercitin yet?
The post that I received by email was differnt than the one you posted above. Isee that you edited it but I'm glad that you explained what is going on with you. Either way pelvic pain sucks and as you know alleriges do polay a part in IC I too have sever allergies and when they did my biopsy (almost 9 years ago) it showed an increased number of mast cells.
I have yet to get my allergies under control and the IC hasn't gotten better. I had a cysto/hydro a year a go which showed all the cracks and bleeding...OUGH!!!! I haven't been able to tolerate any meds and o far the only thing that helps is diet. I would love to hear how you do with the new quercitin. I think I am a candidate for it but.....afraid my body would react!
Do you have pain with any spicy or acidic foods? Do you benefit form the IC diet and how are you with water? I can only drink filtered water. Anything else burns the heck out of myt bladder and causes pain!!!! sometimes for day!
I hope you arefeeling better.:smile tee

[nsmith4366]

Mela,

Let me say how sorry I am that you do indeed have IC. As you know, I don't - but I CAN say I know your pain. I did try the "new" querctin without bromelain (non-citrus - which I've now learned does NOT matter because even the quercetin extract from citrus contains nothing acidic of the citrus fruit anyway)...however - after 2 days of side effects from the Quercetin I've stopped it. It was Hell. Let me tell you.

Quercetin "reads well" all over the web. Sounds like a miracle pill. It has pros and cons and there is alot of "mixed" research on its benefits. Some say it definately decreases cancers...others say its carcinogenic in ways (now most studies say no). I learned that it does increase adrenaline in your system / cuts your appetite (but this does not lead to weightloss in women) because it does bind to estrogen receptors (this is the truth according to the latest research / not the uninformed "nutritionists" who sell the product / ...and talk about PMS symptoms / lots of water body bloating - acne! - emotional mood swings...I haven't had THAT since I had a uterus!!! Not to mention the insane ringing in my ears / increased urination / difficult urination - abdominal PAIN (I'm not kidding yes, all of this) and I began to quickly feel depressed and anxiety - SO ANXIOUS!!!
Crazy.

Is it good for IC or allergies? Well, IC, I wouldn't know. I found out this morning that (from a reputable seller who also finds answers for me)... "We are still waiting on some information from the manufacturers of the Quercetin to find out exactly what materials it comes from, our researcher says (regarding your pH question, which I believe we actually already answered) that the pH count on Quercetin is "slightly acidic."



But I've had tremendous bladder pain - more frequency and urgency with bladder spasms in the past 2 days than I want to admit. I kept blaming other things - but finally on the bathroom floor at 2am (again) I had to confess to myself it was the Quercetin. Perhaps it helps people with IC and MILD allergies. Perhaps....

Allergies - yes, I'm sure it helps some people with ONLY (no other conditions) mild allergies...and NOT a sensitive bladder like my own. It didn't help me one bit with my allergies / I'm as severe as you can get plus asthma from the allergies - and I'm getting intense immunotherapy as we speak. Adding this only gave me PAIN and muddying the waters of my treatment. When I have allergen exposure - my bladder hurts immediately and I have to pee and pee and pee...its crazy...my head "stuffs" up and I have pain all over my body...I can't breathe. What are YOU allergic to??? Please consider getting shots if you can to your allergen / have you been tested?

I can't tolerate any meds either - NONE - all anti-histamines bring me to my knees in PAIN. Even all antibiotics/same thing...I'd tell you want I eat but you'd be shocked that it is so limited. With water I'm fine (I think)...regular tap water - but I stay away from bottled waters that I KNOW are acidic...I've called the companies...Deer Park, Nova Blue are good or Dannon Spring. But who wants to PAY for water?

I hope you are better soon. Really get treatment (shots) not bandaid (meds) for your allergies. I gotta tell you shots are a hard way to go, but once the allergy is undercontrol - and shots do that - you will be free...and so only THEN after you have stopped the flares, will your bladder begin to HEAL.

Querceting has a 1/2 life of 24 hours...so if you do decide to take it you may continue to regret it for 2 days...and another day or two afterwards, after stopping it. It is slow to leave your system they have found.

Remember - ANYONE SELLING YOU ANYTHING WON'T TELL YOU ONE NEGATIVE THING ABOUT WHAT THEY ARE SELLING. ITS NOT THEIR JOB TO BE TRUTHFUL - ITS THEIR JOB TO SELL.