Hair Dye

[jah]

I read an article about a few years ago stating that hair dye is very bad on bladders. It occurs to me that I need to dye my hair, but the last time I did, I had a flare that lasted a week. Does anyone have any information or a tip concerning how to manage hair with IC? Thank you all for your support. I don't know if I have IC--all my tests are negative--but it certainly feels like it, and my experiences are similar to these posts. Just can't understand how one day can be a 10 and the next day a 1.

[waterflow]

I have had mine done professionally and by using store bought in a box. Never seemed to bother my bladder. Maybe you could use the more natural kinds? I know they do have some that are supposed to be easier on your hair but they do cost more.

[jah]

I never heard of the natural kinds of hair dyes. What are they called, and where can you get them?

[sandramac]

:smile tee Hi girls just wanted to let you know that hair dye, is no diffrent in chemistry than your house hold cleaners you would use on a daily basis. Im a Mastercolorist and stylist for 23 years. color has a base of amonia and ions no diffrent than using a cleaner, its a small amount just enough to lift the outer cuticlel layers in the hair shaft, onto the hair cortex the hydrogen peroxide mixed with the color then swells the color molecules locking them inside the hair permanently ,going into the main hairshaft and fill the cortex, to change the underlying pigments and make the new tones swell to change the tone of your color.peroxide just oxidatives the molecules in the color to go into the hair shaft.were you all aware that the baby shampoo you use on your kids is strong enough to lift wax off your floor! its has a chemical in there to just not make tears.baby shampoo is formulated to strip the wax crip cap off your kids scalp. Its almost as strong if not more stronger than any color. Any product that changes you natural shade and tone is chemically treated .NO product that cover greay or changes your coloring is not natural! hennas have a strong staining adheres to the outside of the hair.It makes my life a delima as I can not professionally touch anyone with henna on thier hair! cause it can cause a chemical reaction.And i can not guantarue good results .When someone uses a home product and does not tell thier colorist that they have added somthing at home,Its so important anyone with color treated hair use good professional product to hold in the color.professional products have better quality and protiens to be gentle and color safe, sorry going off track here, it all color is my passion! i live breath and create with it.Please do not go and get a drugstore product the is chemically stronger than a professional product because it has to be to be able to promise the results! I FIX IT ALL DAY! Hope i was able to answer your question, Sorry to be so long winded but hair and color is my true passion ! Hugs ps i can pretty well guess that you were near ovolution or near your period or had eaten somthing to trigger your flare .more than a color doing it ,any product we put on our skin get absobres into the bold including alll skin products make up ,perfume etc .Sandra:cat: :cat: :cat:

[sandramac]

:smile tee Hi girls just wanted to let you know that hair dye, is no diffrent in chemistry than your house hold cleaners you would use on a daily basis. Im a Mastercolorist and stylist for 23 years. color has a base of amonia and ions no diffrent than using a cleaner, its a small amount just enough to lift the outer cuticlel layers in the hair shaft, onto the hair cortex the hydrogen peroxide mixed with the color then swells the color molecules locking them inside the hair permanently ,going into the main hairshaft and fill the cortex, to change the underlying pigments and make the new tones swell to change the tone of your color.peroxide just oxidatives the molecules in the color to go into the hair shaft.were you all aware that the baby shampoo you use on your kids is strong enough to lift wax off your floor! its has a chemical in there to just not make tears.baby shampoo is formulated to strip the wax crip cap off your kids scalp. Its almost as strong if not more stronger than any color. Any product that changes you natural shade and tone is chemically treated .NO product that cover greay or changes your coloring is not natural! hennas have a strong staining adheres to the outside of the hair.It makes my life a delima as I can not professionally touch anyone with henna on thier hair! cause it can cause a chemical reaction.And i can not guantarue good results .When someone uses a home product and does not tell thier colorist that they have added somthing at home,Its so important anyone with color treated hair use good professional product to hold in the color.professional products have better quality and protiens to be gentle and color safe, sorry going off track here, it all color is my passion! i live breath and create with it.Please do not go and get a drugstore product the is chemically stronger than a professional product because it has to be to be able to promise the results! I FIX IT ALL DAY! Hope i was able to answer your question, Sorry to be so long winded but hair and color is my true passion ! ps i can pretty well guess that you were near ovolution or near your period or had eaten somthing to trigger your flare .more than a color doing it ,any product we put on our skin get absobres into the blood including alll skin products make up ,perfume etc huggs.Sandra:cat: :cat: :cat:

[jwisely]

All my tests for the past ten years for everything seem to be negative or they are not sure. Now they are sure I have IC, and it is driving me crazy. One day I am peeing like a race horse - 20 times a day or better, or I dont go at all.

[SandyRN]

I've been dying my hair for years and have never had a flare from going to the salon or using the kind they sell in the store. If you do a home dye, check the box and follow the directions to do a sensitivity/allergy test prior to putting it on your hair.

We've talked about this topic before and the general outcome was that hair dyes do not cause flares, but they CAN cause allergic reactions in some people.

Hope this helps.

Sandy

[waterflow]

Sandra--when I went to have my hair done about 3 years ago the woman said they were all out of the coloring company kind that I had been using but she told me they had this other kind that was more natural and cost a lot more but she said she would let me use it for the same price as the other one. So, they are all the same?? Wonder what she was telling me about then? :rolleyes: I thought baby shampoo was suppose to be gentle as gentle can be. No wonder when i used it my hair started falling out. You know I'm going to try that next week. I have a small bottle of baby shampoo and I need to take the wax off the bathroom floor. I'll give the update on it. :lmao:

[sandramac]

Hey Waterflo there is a big difference in product ! HUGE ! You will see the results, I use only Wella and top of the line WELLA! they about 8 diffrent color lines, for permenent color, different line s for relightes semi , a very large variety , depending on what u want . I will have a web page soon with examples! ill but a link later once its done. as for the baby shampoo do not dilete it when u apply it to the floor ,the longer u leave it on , It will strip the wax off! HE HE! let me know how u make out with your test.Hugs Sandra :cat: :cat: :cat:

[waterflow]

Sandra, I've never heard of Wella. On the next cooler day I am going to use the baby shampoo on the floor in front of the door. It's a small one so I will see how it works. I can't stand using amonia so actually this will be a good thing. The house will smell nice and the floor will be extra soft. :biglaugh:

[Sally727]

Hi! I'm Sally. I'm in the process of being diagnosed for IC. My Doctors first instinct was Adenomyosis (when the lining cells of the uterus grow directly into the muscle wall of the uterus) until I mentioned I have the same pain when my bladder is full. Started taking Elmiron today. Have an MRI on Monday and am rescheduling my 1st instillation until a week after the MRI. That way I can see what the MRI says before I go through the instillation, which kinda scares me too ! :(

I just found all this out yesterday and have been debating back and forth which diagnosis I would rather have. After viewing several posts on this website, I think I'm hoping for the Adenomyosis. The Dr could do a hysterectomy and everything would be done. Athough that scares me too :shake: - not nearly as much as IC.

I have tons of questions! Like, does stress bring on IC too? Although I am PMSing, I swear it's been worse in the past 24 hours. Or maybe it's just cause I'm thinking about it constantly.:rolleyes:

:idea: After reading about the hair dye and Sandra's response, which I totally concure with - everything we put on our skin is absorbed into our blood.
Thanks!
Sally

[Katrina]

:welcome: to the ICN Sally,
Stress cannot cause IC but it can certainly cause a flare up. That being said stress does make us more acidic and is hard on the pelvic muscles and if it is bad enough and other things are contributing it may have a roll to play in why someone has IC. since any surgery is hard on those pelvic muscles and on the surrounding organs I wouldn't want a hysterectomy unless you know what is going on. Mine was a big flare up of IC symptoms for quite a long time.

What kind of installation are you having? If it is a rescue instillation than the worse part is the catheder....if it is DMSO....RESEARCH FIRST!!! Also do not do a percentage of rimso that is not 25% or less!!!!!!

[asilva]

Sandra,
What you wrote could have easily been written by my daughter. She's a hair stylist, too, and she uses Wella-loves it. She has told me the exact thing you've said here about products, color, etc. She does my hair-every month-blonde roots, highlights, lowlights, you name it and it looks good! None of this has ever bothered my bladder.

[armslee]

My stylist uses Redkin products on me and the only problem I have is being able to afford it!
:lmao:

[Sally727]

Hi Katrina! Thanks for responding!! I'm new to these message boards!

Had the MRI today. Kinda freaked me out at first, but then it was fine.

Regarding the instillation, I think it's just Elmiron. Dr told me to bring 2 of my Elmiron pills with me and that he would mix them into a solution. He wants me to be on the Elmiron 100 mg 3X/day and have in instillation 1X/week for 4-6 weeks. I think he's trying to cover both bases without having to do any surgery. It is scarey how similar the symptoms are. From what I can tell, there is no test that can give you an exact IC diagnosis and you can't tell if you have adenomyosis until the uterus is biopsied AFTER the hysterectomy. The only thing that keeps me from thinking it's adeno. is that I do not have HEAVY cycles. If anything it's been lighter the last few months. How can you tell if the enlarged/swollen uterus is effecting the bladder or vise versa?

Can you answer just a couple of questions?
What is rimso?
Is it common for your stomach to be bloated with IC?
Does Elmiron cause trouble sleeping. Besides the getting up to use the batheroom (which I guess didn't used to really bother me that much-when it was just once) now I can't get back to sleep?

I have a ton more, but have to be to work in 4 1/2 hours. Ugh!

Thanks for listening!!!

Sally

[sandramac]

ASILVA tELL YOUR DAUGHTER TO LOOK INTO DAVINES! IM CHANGING OVER, SHE WILL SEE WHY! hUGS SANDRA:cat: :cat: :cat:

[Katrina]

Sally,
Rimso is the medication in DMSO......it comes as rimso 50 but that percentage is dangerous. If someone is interested in DMSO treatment they should make sure their percentage is at least only 25% rimso.

yes it is common for your stomach to be bloated with IC....there is something called the IC belly which is caused by mass cells that is one of the possible causes. Another common reason is IBS which almost everyone with IC has. If it is the IC belly with you an antihistamine may be a good treatment for you.

I don't know of Elmiron causing trouble sleeping, most meds if anything often help that.
http://www.ic-network.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7562 this is thread of pain relief the second page has attachments I believe the last attachment is the list of pain relief ideas.

http://www.ic-network.com/forum/showthread.php?t=27584 newbie kit moved to newbie board from the oldies to the newbies

Feel free to Private message me with your questions :grouphug:

I cannot answer the question on how to tell if an enlarged or swollon uterus is affecting the bladder......but I can say that most IC patients can definatly say that when another problem is going on near their bladder it affects their bladder. My reason for my hysterectomy was endometriosis.

an instillation of Elmiron would fall into the category of a rescue instillation and these days can help in the diagnosis of IC. Basically if it helps that is a sign that your symptoms may be coming from your bladder. Safer than a surgery. :grouphug:
Good luck!