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ihurttoo
02-12-2006, 04:27 PM
Hi! I dont know if I have this in the right place or not, but I'd kinda of like some opinions. I was d/xed with IC about 3 yrs ago. My symptoms are freq/urg and pain. I have also have freq UTIs/bladder/kidney infections. (I had 10 last year. (And yes, I was tested after each one to make sure the urine was okay. ) Most of these infections took 2-3 courses of antibiotics to clear up. But once I got one the right antibiotic, I always felt like I went into remission, (IC seemed to leave me) until the next infection came in a few weeks. I realize that most ICers dont have the frequent infections. I also have a consistenly high SED rate. Blood work always shows inflammation, even when my infections are "gone". My white count also stays abnormally high, and I keep a low grade fever most of the time. When I get the kidney infections, it is always the same kidney. :loco: :hmm: Oh, and one more thing, I bruise really badly. Like from holding a pen sometimes, my fingers between will be bruised. Sometimes I will bruise on the side of my body just from laying in the bed. I sometimes look as though I have been beaten severly, but the bruises do not hurt. I still dont know what is up with all of this. It only happens about 2-3 times a year, and it takes forever to get an appt with a hematologist, and usually by the time my appt time comes around, of course, it's not doing it, so I cancel and try to hope that it will be happening at the next one. I dont know what is going on there, but it scares me. I dont leave the house at all when this happens, b/c I literally look as though I have been beaten. I did a search for this on the boards, but have not seen any of you yet with this particular symptom, so I didnt know if it is connected to the IC, the Lupus, or if there is something else weird going on in my body. And I dont know if all my weird stuff is conncected somehow. If anyone else has my symptoms, PLEASE tell me, I really want to know that I am not out there by myself on this. Anyway, moving on, I was d/xed with IC with the PST and the questionairre (forgot what it was called, but most of you know what I'm talking about.) Anyway, he started the DMSOs immediately, Elmiron, among other meds and the IC diet. No response. Except that I feel remarkably better after the bladder instills. (I mean before I get up off of the table!) Presumably this is from the marcaine, although, I have noticed most of you dont feel that great after them. (once again I seem to be atypical) After a while, he began to suspect endo and it was decided we'd do laproscopic surgery and bring in a uro at te same time to do a cysto/hydro w/a bladder biopsy. (My treating dr is a gyn) The uro sees nothing. No hunner's ulcers, no glomerulations, no nothing! But the lapro showed endo, and pelvic adhesions that had grown thru the lining of my bladder and also endometriois was everywhere as well as cysts that were bigger than the ovaries that they were attached to. They figured all that was causing my pain and bladder issues. So then, I ended up having to have a total hysterectomy last fall at age 33. He thought this would help with my pain. It helped it everywhere except my bladder and fibromyalgia in my upper thighs, sides, and back. After the hysterectomy, I got another kidney infection, and ended up back in the hospital. They did an x-ray with contrast dye injected. And a pelvic cat scan. Nothing showed up here. So no one knows why I keep having these repeat infections. I have recently been given 100mg Macrobid to take daily to try to stave off future infections. I guess what I am wondering is, would you see a uro to try to find to cause of this or an infectious disease dr, or should I just think the cause is unimportant and just keep taking antibiotics the rest of my life. Last week my rhematologist told me she feels pretty sure I have Lupus now. I have positive anit-nuclear antibodies. (she has said this before, and then said no, and now she's saying it again.) I am so frustrated being bounced from dr. to dr. I just want to know if you think an infectious disease dr could poss help me. And if i went to a uro again, if there anyother test I ought to do that I havent done yet that might tell me something. I know I am reaching here, but I would love to find out it is just a single complicated infection that I just never got rid of and not IC. I know it's probobly wishful thinking, but maybe even,"Here, take these pills, they are high dose, but it will wipe out all that crud youve had for years. Oh, and also take this pain medicine until you arent hurting anymore, (but you probobly wont need them more than a day or two.) But if you do need more, call me and I 'll be glad to help you. I want to keep you comfortable and fuctional in the mean time." OKAY!! I KNOW!! I am a dreamer, but dose a same, single, chronic infection that could be treatable seem POSSIBLE to any of you who are objective? Please someone respond. I am going to a pain clinic 2 1/2 hrs away Wed, b/c I can no longer bear living like this without continuous pain medicine, but if there was any other hope for a cure for me, I guess I just wanted to make sure I have exhausted EVERY option before I admit defeat. Suggestions, anyone??

Katrina
02-13-2006, 09:17 AM
I realize that most ICers dont have the frequent infections. It is true that we all don't but some do...and many have for a time in their life...your not as a lone as you think. :grouphug:
I bruise really badly. Like from holding a pen sometimes, my fingers between will be bruised.
I used to bruise very easily....I was embarissed all the time because I would so bruised up with no idea what happened...everyone expected for me to look like that I should at least remember how it began. So far I am concerned it is because of my medication Tegretol which from the little bit I know about Lupus is one of the medications that can cause med/drug induced Lupus...I know thin blood can do this too....which may be why you are worse at some points than others. Since I have had quite a few times in my life where something in me was bleeding I suspect that played a roll too. So do you know your blood count? Have you talked to your doctor about this?
would you see a uro to try to find to cause of this or an infectious disease dr, or should I just think the cause is unimportant and just keep taking antibiotics the rest of my life. Last week my rhematologist told me she feels pretty sure I have Lupus now. I have positive anit-nuclear antibodies. (she has said this before, and then said no, and now she's saying it again.)
Well if you do take antibiotics the rest of your life...your not alone that seems to be part of my current plan :grouphug: None the less I don't necessarily think it should be yours. First off...are you getting infections more because of your installations? Remember everytime you use a catheder you may get one. I think you should look into the infections further. Are there things you can do to strengthen your bodies ability to fight them? Is there more you can do to lesson your risk? What is your urine ph? Maybe you should look into hormone changes because you ph level can impact your bodies ability to fight infections especailly urinary tract ones and it may make a big difference. I see the estrogen there....but I want to make sure things are right for you.
No matter what it is not yet time to admit defeat.

:grouphug: Your not alone!!!!!!!! Please feel free to Private Mesage me if you need me ok?

ihurttoo
02-13-2006, 12:08 PM
Hello, Katrina! Thank you for your reply. So funny that you replied, because you were someone I was particularly interested in hearing from, since I had read some of your past posts and noticed so many simularities between us. As far as the cathing being a cause, I am sure it is quite possible, but there are really no other precautions I can take, since my dr does them for me. The only time I self-cath is maybe once every few months if have a bad episode of retention. As for the Estrogen, I see what you are saying there, as low levels can make tissues more fragile and infection-prone. I will have my Dr. check my hormone levels to be sure I am getting enough. That is for sure a good idea. I would hate to be on the antibiotics forever, but I guess mainly I just wanted to be sure that it was my last resort. Thank you for the advice. I will be exploring the options you gave me. Hugs, Amy P.S It is so eiree how you are always around when I need you! :angel:

quiltz
02-13-2006, 02:37 PM
Hi Amy,
Looks as if Katrina has just about said it all already, I just had one thought for you to consider. I had early menopause at age 30 (I'm 60 now) and had really severe bruising for years! They did blood work so many times I can't count and always tested fine ... no problem with clotting time or anything. They finally said I had fragile capillaries, somehow due to the early menopause. It was so annoying ...I bruised like a ripe fruit!!
I have always avoided any drugs that would be a problem because we were afraid of my bleeding if I was in an accident or anything!! So no aspirin or nsaids
(motrin, naprosyn or the like) or others that have anticoagulant effects. Luckily, the bruising problem has gotten much better lately and I hope you can get to the bottom of it for yourself!

Liz :cat: :hi:

ihurttoo
02-13-2006, 03:07 PM
Thank you, Quiltz! It is nice to know I am not just a total freak! I will ask the pain dr tomorrow what his thoughts are on this. Perhaps he can tell me if I need to have further studies done. Sometimes it is nice just to know that someone else has seen this stuff before. Thank you again for the info and help! Hugs, Amy

quiltz
02-13-2006, 03:49 PM
Hey! Amy! Just because THEY can't figure us out :idea: ..... does not make us freaks!! Hee hee .... It helps so much when we have someone to validate us when we go through all this stuff doesn't it? ...... Liz (any time)

Thank you, Quiltz! It is nice to know I am not just a total freak! I will ask the pain dr tomorrow what his thoughts are on this. Perhaps he can tell me if I need to have further studies done. Sometimes it is nice just to know that someone else has seen this stuff before. Thank you again for the info and help! Hugs, Amy

Katrina
02-13-2006, 04:50 PM
Yes Amy, I was reading your signature and felt we had a lot in common too. :grouphug: