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Daydream
07-23-2005, 07:53 AM
Has anyone tried the treatment in the article below?

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http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=50746


Advocate Good Samaritan Hospital Brings Bladder Botox to Patients Suffering from Incontinence or Pelvic Muscle Pain; Photo Available

7/22/2005 3:19:00 PM


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To: National Desk, Health Reporter, Photo Editor

Contact: Katie Maniatis of Advocate Good Samaritan Hospital, 630-275-1149

DOWNERS GROVE, Ill., July 22 /U.S. Newswire/ -- The Illinois Urogynecology, LTD have been instrumental in offering relief to patients suffering from incontinence and pelvic muscle pain using Botox. Denise M. Elser, M.D., along with William Kobak, M.D. and Margaret Roberts, M.D., offer a rare process that can alleviate a life-altering problem.

The first Botox method involving the bladder muscle alleviates frequent need to urinate by relaxing the muscles of the bladder. First a cystoscope, thinner than the average pencil, is injected for a closer look at the bladder muscle. Next, a very small needle, the size of a thick strand of hair is used to inject the bladder muscle with Botox. Patients are back to normal activities the next day and results last for 8-18 months, at which point they can be re-injected for further relief. "When people do their faces with Botox, the results usually last 2-3 months, but with bladder Botox, the results are lasting 8-18 months," relays Denise Elser, M.D.

One such patient who went through the process claims that she wants everyone to know about this procedure because she is sure there are others who are experiencing the disruptive lifestyle incontinence or frequent urination can create. Sally Ryan went through Bladder Botox injections and her results lasted a relieving seven months. Sally shares that doctors have explained that the results may last even longer next time. She was just re-injected in June. "You want to wear your bathing suit and wear white pants, but I couldn't do those things for fear of leakage. I tried several different medicines and doctors," explains Sally Ryan.

The second method of Botox injection is to the pelvic muscles, for problems such as pain during intercourse, pain with urination, or urinary retention. This too is a simple procedure and can result in permanent good outcome.

"We have had no failures with Botox," boasts Denise M. Elser, M.D.

Dr. Elser explains that about 94 percent of their patients are referred to physical therapy with positive results, but that some patients are interested in quicker results and there are a percentage of patients who do not see progress from physical therapy. "The biggest problem is getting insurance to pay for the drug. We have gotten case by case approval and are working hard for policy change in the insurance companies, so that they realize this is not cosmetic," cites Denise M. Elser, M.D.

An Incontinence Clinic, currently under construction at Good Samaritan Hospital in Downers Grove where Dr. Elser is a practicing physician, is expected to open later this year to treat this and a number of other women's health issues. Dr. Elser and her group are also affiliated with Advocate Christ Medical Center.

Advocate Good Samaritan Hospital operates the only Level 1 Trauma Center in DuPage County. The 342-bed facility also operates a nationally recognized Level III Perinatal Center and is noted for its cardiac and cancer care, women and children's services and surgical services. It is a member of Advocate Health Care, based out of Oak Brook, Illinois - the largest fully integrated health care delivery system in metropolitan Chicago. Advocate is recognized as one of the top 10 health systems in the country, treating more than a million Chicago-area residents each year.

PHOTO EDITORS:

A high-resolution, publication-ready photograph supporting this story is available for free editorial use at: http://www.wirepix.com/cgi-bin/newsphotos/download.cgi?image=USN072205aa.jpg.

The photo is of Denise M. Elser, M.D. Dr. Elser, the Illinois Urogynecology, LTD group and Sally Ryan are available for interview upon request.

http://www.usnewswire.com/

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/© 2005 U.S. Newswire 202-347-2770/

cyndbear
07-24-2005, 10:57 AM
You explained this treatment with botox really well. I am going to ask my urologist about this. It sounds like it is working for you. The more treatments we get the closer we may get to an answer about IC :idea: Have a great day the sun is out and I plan to get out.

tbokay
07-24-2005, 11:37 AM
Thanks! Good Sams is close to me - 30 min or so. I am printing the article and will ask my uro/gyn on 8/12 about this procedure (as I try to sit here thru yet another flare).

IcyAngel23
07-27-2005, 09:24 PM
I've had botox done twice. It only lasts 4-6 months though. I haven't seen any research or personal eperience that would lead me to believe it will lat 8-18 months. Botox helped with my freq/urge but not pain. Depending on how many units and how mnay injections will change your recovery time. I have a general anes. so I'm completely out for the whole thing. I was back to doing light activities in a few days. But still you need to let your bladder heal so after about a good week I felt much better. Plus it takes 7-10 days for the botox to kick in fully.
Aug 04 botox 1 Dec 04 botox 2.

Good luck to anyone considering botox

Hel
07-28-2005, 09:01 AM
Hi,

I agree with Icyangel, I haven't seen anywhere that it lasts 8 - 18 months. We are told in the UK 6 - 9 months depending on the dosage.

Having Botox is not something that I would personally repeat. I had it done 7 months ago and had chronic urinary retention ever since, and know of three other ladies experiencing the same difficulties.

I sincerely hope that it works for you and wish you all the best.


With best wishes from Helen

Prinny Joy
08-10-2005, 09:00 AM
I've had the collagen shots and helped me tremendously from all the leaking, my urodynamic was fine and I can hold quite well but w/ my leaking caused by spasms the collagen really helped. I went through it once and when I took the second skin test to hevae it done again, my skin test didn't go well so I can't get it done just yet anyway, I useually get stuff done when I'm getting a distention which my last one failed so I loved the collagen! Imagine going to a Def Leppard concert and dancing only to dance theurine right out and have a nice circle of urine on your bottom, it was worth it though as I won't let IC ruin absolutely all my dreams. Hope that helps. PEACE aand JOY JOY JOY

Flore
08-10-2005, 12:14 PM
I have had many time the injections (I don´t remember if I had 7 or 8), anyway, in the begininig Botox lasted with good results for 4 months, and in the last time lasted 8. So I hope to have the next shoots next Jan

Prinny Joy
08-10-2005, 12:30 PM
That is great! I wish I could have more shots. It helped me so much. I have good muscles in my bladder but I leak! I'm just curious, do you tire easy? I get so tired after activity, after a trip I need atleast 2 weeks of rest. My body is sooooo tired! PEACE and JOY

Flore
08-12-2005, 07:22 AM
I have 2 jobs now (my association in México (ACI México), and a company that develps commtent and web sites). And now my dr, a patient from my group and me are opening an office for gives photo therapy. With this you can imagine my day

And because of the association I have to travel so much. I feel tyred every day, but I can do my activities without problem. But.... on Sunday, that is the day that my family and I use to stay at home I SLEEP ALL THE DAY, I sleep may be 18 hours!!

And when I come back home from any travel, I have to stay in my bed for 2 days (at least!!)

Prinny Joy
08-12-2005, 07:26 AM
I recall teaching and busting my butt all week and my roommate at thetime not understanding why I had to stay in bed on the weekends and not wanting to go to WalMart. I thought I was alone as far as being soooooo tired from all the weeks physical activity. No matter what fun I have I turn around and pay the price and am soooo very tired. Just activity one day a week is almost too much at times for me now. Congrats on being able to work so much! PEACE and JOY!

Dabell
10-18-2005, 05:32 AM
I have 2 jobs now (my association in México (ACI México), and a company that develps commtent and web sites). And now my dr, a patient from my group and me are opening an office for gives photo therapy. With this you can imagine my day

And because of the association I have to travel so much. I feel tyred every day, but I can do my activities without problem. But.... on Sunday, that is the day that my family and I use to stay at home I SLEEP ALL THE DAY, I sleep may be 18 hours!!

And when I come back home from any travel, I have to stay in my bed for 2 days (at least!!)

You do speak Spanish?

Flore
10-18-2005, 05:36 AM
Yes I do

Lori Campbell
11-03-2005, 10:16 PM
Hi Daydream ,
Last 9/04 , I had a botox treatment to the bladder and pelvic floor muscles , since I was in such a bad spasm , which where twisting my cucas bone and hyper extended my right hip bone . I got severly ill afterwards , runs , vomitting , pain worsen to a 10 . I had to use canes , a walker , and even had to crawl up steps it took to 11/04 till I could function on my own . So be careful , and be aware , we are all different , that is why Drs. have a hard time treating us . What works for one could make another patient worse . Just wanted you to know , but good luck in trying , you never know what works ,for you and your health issues