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kelly McC
03-29-2005, 03:40 PM
First my prayers are with both families and all involved. I normally dont get to watch much tv but with surgery last week and being off I have been watching this story. I can only say I am saddend by this story and feel so bad for the families . It has made me think and decide to get my wishes in writing. I am hearing this stuff happens everyday but we dont hear about it definately not like this.
Kelly

sleepyangel30
03-29-2005, 03:47 PM
yeah its really sad

ICNDonna
03-29-2005, 04:24 PM
We've had discussions in our family too, which I think can be very helpful. We haven't "put it in writing" yet, but plan to do so.

I think the situation is extremely sad for everyone and my heart goes out to both families.

Donna

Cricketmk3
03-30-2005, 01:05 AM
I need to get off my butt and make a living will because there is no way I would ever want to be kept alive for 15 (?) years with no hope for recovery. My parents would probably be like Terry's and want me to stay but I would never want to be kept on this earth in that condition. Heaven is too great of a place for that!

JenG
03-30-2005, 05:01 AM
I too am sad for the families, but feel the situation is getting too political and they're making it more about the politics than poor Terry. My family, myself included, all have living wills and I would encourage everyone to get this done. It is very difficult to discuss this with your loved ones, but it is important to have it in writing. Also, my mom just had surgery thursday to remove a benign lypoma. She has had others removed at this same facility before, but for the first time they asked for a copy of her living will, or advanced directives. They said that all of the hospitals and surgery centers will be doing this.
Again, prayers to her family and friends. :pray:

Dixiefireball
03-30-2005, 06:56 AM
I have to agree that has been a big talk with my family since this case came up it sadden me so. I want to get a living will as soon as i can afford it. I feel so sorry for her and wish i could do something to help her and her family.
God bless.
Rhonda

patricia1
03-31-2005, 04:03 AM
I am not sure everyone knows this or not, but Terri Schiavo has passed. March 31, 2005 @ 9:05 est time. I feel that she is now in a better place, she is able to walk, talk and just be the person she was before this long battle began. I just pray that her family will now be able to heal themselves. I hope they are able to forgive her husband for the hard decisions he has made over the years. I would suggest that everyone, after this example, get a living will done up and explain exactly what you would want done for you if you or your family was put in this place. Bless you Terri you were the one that was the center of this and you were the one who deserve to die in diginaty and peace. Bless you

kelly McC
03-31-2005, 05:15 AM
:angel: :angel: :angel:

Portia17
03-31-2005, 06:49 AM
News Channel 8 report
Timeline: Terri Schiavo's Life
PINELLAS PARK - She loved animals, liked to show off in her dad's Trans Am, looked forward to vacations down the Jersey Shore.

As a child growing up in Philadelphia, Terri Schiavo dreamed of running her own dog-grooming business. As she got older, the goal was to be a veterinarian.

``Growing up, Terri was an animal freak,'' her mother, Mary Schindler, recalled.

``I had every animal you can think of in our house: Terri's turtles, Terri's rabbits, Terri's gerbil and a yellow lab named Bucky,'' Schindler said. ``I don't have a problem with animals, but I don't like them in my house. But we had them anyway.''

Terri, who died on March 31, 2005 at 41, was the first of the Schindler children, one year and one month older than her brother, Bobby, and 3 1/2 years older than Suzanne.

``Terri and Bobby were close, but one day I heard this muffled voice coming from a suitcase,'' Schindler said. ``Bobby had apparently locked her in the suitcase, and when she came out she was beet red from screaming. They must have been playing.''

A few days later, Terri did something completely out of character, her mother said.

``I heard a bump. She pushed Bobby down the steps. Thank God I just had those steps carpeted.''

According to Bobby, the suitcase incident is blown way out of proportion.

``We were just fooling around, and she hid from me in the suitcase,'' Bobby, 40, recalled of the incident perhaps 35 years ago that still dominates family lore.

``Then I told her I didn't know how to open the latch. The suitcase was flopping all over, and I ran downstairs'' to hide, he said.

Another time, when they were older and Terri got to drive that black Trans Am with the pop-off roof panels, she ran over a cat, Bobby recalled.

``Terri was driving home, and she comes in hysterical that she hit and killed a cat,'' Bobby said.

So he and his father retraced her route, found the cat's corpse and hid it, he said.

``We came back and told Terri she must have missed it, and she went back to see for herself,'' he said. ``Good thing we hid it because it was dead as a doornail.''

Bob Schindler recalled the time his eldest daughter bought a live Christmas tree, only to discover it was wickedly crooked once she got it home.

``I told her to take it back to where she bought it and have them put it in the tree straightener,'' he chuckled. ``They eventually gave her a new tree.''


She Always Saw The Good

Bob Schindler frequently had fun at the expense of his daughter's doe-eyed naivete, said Diane Meyer, Terri's best friend throughout childhood.

Terri was a good person who did good things for others and never suspected anyone of being capable of anything else, Meyer said.

``She never had a bad word for anyone, never an unkind word,'' Meyer said. ``She is one of the people you meet and you feel lucky. ... She had the kind of life that affected everybody she knew.''

Meyer said her father and Bob Schindler were best friends in high school, so the families were close.

At one time, the Schindlers and the Meyers both lived on Bloomfield Avenue in northeast Philadelphia. Later, when Bob Schindler's business took off, the family moved to Red Wing Lane in the upscale suburb of Huntington Valley northeast of the city.

Every summer, all the kids would get two vacations ``down the shore'' in New Jersey, Meyer said: once at the Schindlers' place in Stone Harbor and once at the Meyers' beach house in Cape May.

She and Terri loved to watch children's movies such as Disney's ``Bambi'' and ``Pinocchio,'' anything with animals, Meyer said.

``As teens we used to try to hijack a kid to go to Disney movies'' so they wouldn't look out of place, she said.

Terri also liked a schmaltzy romance.

``She loved the movie `Officer and a Gentleman.' She saw that movie four times the first week it came out,'' Meyer said.

Meyer also remembers the time Terri ran over an animal, only she recalls it was a rabbit and Terri was driving to the Meyers' house.

``Terri came into the house hysterically crying. It must have taken us 15 minutes to get it out of her,'' Meyer said. ``Bobby and my brother went down and hid the rabbit, and we took her down there and showed her the spot.''


`She Became Stunning'

Bob Schindler recalled his daughter never gave him any trouble while she was growing up.

She was overweight all through school and was not athletic, her father said. ``She wouldn't go to summer camp, but she wanted to go to dancing school and learn ballet,'' he said.

``I had to go to this recital, and Terri was anything but graceful,'' he said. ``I laughed so hard.''

Bob Schindler said he once stayed home sick and had the house to himself for the first time he could recall.

``I went upstairs to look around, and Bobby's room, it was a dump. Suzanne's room was normal. Terri's room was full of stuffed animals,'' he said. ``In every nook and cranny would be a stuffed animal.''

Terri lost a lot of weight during her senior year at Archbishop Wood High School, a Catholic school for girls. Meyer estimated she dropped 70 pounds from a high of about 200.

``She was always beautiful, but she became stunning,'' Meyer said. ``There was always a shy side to Terri, but she blossomed out and became more self-confident.''

After high school, Terri enrolled at Bucks County [Pa.] Community College, a commuter school where she turned heads in the black Trans Am with a golden phoenix emblem on the hood.

One of those heads was that of Michael Schiavo, a tall, blond-haired, blue-eyed sophomore from Levittown, Pa.

Schiavo was Terri's first and only boyfriend, and he proposed after they dated for about half a year.

``I sat both of them down and said: `At least wait a year. At least get your diplomas' '' from community college, Mary Schindler said. ``They insisted they were in love.''

In November 1984, the couple were married at Our Lady of Good Counsel Church, where Terri had attended grammar school and worshipped throughout her childhood.

She was a month shy of her 21st birthday.

``I remember telling her she couldn't have champagne at her wedding,'' Meyer said.

At first the newlyweds lived in their own apartment. Finances soon forced them to move in with the Schindlers, where they occupied a basement room that recently had been paneled and carpeted, Bob Schindler recalled.

In early 1986, the Schiavos moved to St. Petersburg, where the Schindlers owned a vacation condominium, paying $400 a month rent to Terri's parents when they could.

Terri had worked as a clerk at a Prudential Insurance agency in Philadelphia and transfered to another Prudential agency in St. Petersburg, her father said.

However, she still hoped for a career caring for animals and talked of going to veterinary school, at one point contacting television personality Joan Embry of the San Diego Zoo for advice, Mary Schindler said.

``Embry told her to finish her education,'' Mary Schindler said.

Later in 1986, after Bob Schindler sold his business and Suzanne graduated from high school, the Schindlers carried out their original plan to retire to the St. Petersburg condominium. For a while it was crowded, Bob Schindler said.

Eventually the Schindlers rented a home where they could live while Suzanne attended St. Petersburg Junior College, and then they sold the condominium, Bob Schindler said. With the help of a loan from the Schindlers, Terri and Michael rented the apartment on Fourth Street North in St. Petersburg where they were living when Terri had heart failure leading to her severe brain damage, her father said.

Doctors think her heart failure was caused by a potassium imbalance that may have been brought on by an eating disorder.

ICNDonna
03-31-2005, 08:34 AM
My heartfelt sympathy to all of Terri's family --- her parents, her siblings, and her husband.

I am now closing this thread. There are many feelings on both sides of this issue and there are several web sites where they can be discussed.

Donna