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icnmgrjill
03-08-2005, 12:47 PM
Here I sit on a sunny Tuesday afternoon. The sky is a gorgeous blue. It's about 70 degrees outside (well, it really is California), the trees are softly blowing, the hayfever has begun in many.... and, woe is me, I'm struggling with an IC flare. In fact, I spent three whole days in my home with an icepack between my legs, a heating pad on my belly and cursing the fact that I couldn't go out and enjoy our first real Spring weekend. It's also the strangest flare I've ever had.

Beginnings
It began last Thursday night just after dinner. I had just finished my dessert (a diluted cafe mocha... which I can normally tolerate), sat down to watch SURVIVOR when, whammo, my urethra went into spasm. Since I've rarely had urethral spasms, I really jumped. Urinating was very painful and it felt as if someone had cut my urethra open. Very sharp... hot pain. Yowza! Urinated about ten times that hour.... and wondered what the heck had happened.

It took about 30 minutes to realize that this pain was not going to get much better so I took my normal 1/3 dose of pain medication. Zippo. Nada... It didn't help at all. I thought, hmmm., maybe I have a UTI. Pulled my bathroom apart at 10pm looking for my UTI test kits only to remember that I had, indeed, thrown them away. Arrrgh! Out of desperation, I took an antibiotic anyway... because the urethral burning had only happened one time before... when I had a bladder infection about five years ago. Yes, I know. Never self medicate!!! I shouldn't have... if you read to the end of this story!

Thank god for perineal wash bottles. I filled mine with cold water and sprayed myself as I was urinating... and it helped reduce that horrible burning sensation. Drank several glasses of water to get my urine super diluted. Hydroxyzine helped me get to sleep... but was up several times.

Day #2 - The flare changes
What started out as just urethral burning moved into a deep bladder pain. My bladder felt very full and heavy. Dashed to my office and grabbed a UTI test kit. I was negative.. plus no fever. Stayed at home, on the couch, with a heating pad and a cat that slept with me all day. Comforting she was... comfortable my bladder was not. Arrghh! On a scale of 1 to 10, the pain was about a 6.

My pelvic floor muscles were started to spasm alot... and I had pain along some of the classic muscle referral points... especially below my belly button.

Day #3 - Bladder Pain becomes vaginal pain
On Saturday, my flare morphs yet again. Instead of bladder pain, I'm now having deep vaginal pain like a horrible yeast infection. I had no other symptoms... that I associate with yeast infections... but used some yeast cream anyway. Made it wayyyy worse. Clearly, the vagina had become supersensitized. Another day in bed... tears of worry heavily shed.

Had the classic emotional reaction to a flare. "Please god, don't let this keep going." My family was worried. The pain meds kept me dozing most of the day... with dreaded, gasping trips to the bathroom. Did I mention that the urethral burning never stopped?

Day #4 - The Vulva Awakens Angry
Sunday should have been called "Attack of the Killer Vulva." Wow.... nearly went to the ER... had searing hot pain on my vulva. Out of desperation, I made an ice pack which I shoved between my legs... and it HELPED! For the first time... ice helped me. Normally, heat pads are my friend.

Day #5 - It Magically Settles Down.
Yesterday, I woke up with little pain and only a tiny amount of burning. I'm so relieved... thank god. I pointedly did not use any yeast med or antibiotic that night just off the chance that either were making me worse... and I believe they were. I was able to work all day yesterday... no meds... only slight discomfort. By the end of the day, it was hurting abit... but, all and all, I felt lucky

Day #6 - Today
:::deep breath:::: Today is better.

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What I think happened

Diet once again triggered a horrible flare. But, in this case, this flare was also a classic example of how bladder pain can quickly become pelvic pain. That's why so many now consider IC a pelvic pain syndrome. Clearly, it began in my urethra... the nerves became sensitized and involved then my bladder, my pelvic floor muscles, my vagin and eventuall the vulva. I think I'm lucky that with the cold packs, wash bottle and pain meds, that I was able to get it nipped in the bud... because it was very painful.

One thought that I kept coming back to was a discussion during a researcher interview two weeks. He was focusing on the concept of a visceral pain syndrome and how important it is treat all sources of pain... and to "turn down the volume" of all the pain involved. Thus... I remembered that and tried to do that. I used ice for the urethral, heat for the lower belly, hydroxyzine and pain meds. I think it was a good strategy... however I did make some mistakes.

Mistakes I made
#1. I totally screwed up my diet and had 5 acids that day. OJ, three herbal teas for my kinda sore throat... and then that darn cafe mocha. I think it totally irritated my bladder.
#2. Taking the antibiotic was stupid... just STUPID with a capital S. Why?? Because I didn't have positive test result and because antibiotics can irritate a bladder. I think that's what made it become bladder pain rather than just urethral pain. Self medication is always a risk.
#3. Taking the yeast medication just added fuel to the fire. I know that I react to creams... and that they can cause a burning sensation... and that's what happened the next day. My bladder pain was joined by intense vaginal pain. Oww!


Lessons Learned
A. Don't self medicate
B. Get lab tests done... rather than guess!
C. Cold can works for a hot, burning pain
D. Resting helps. I can only guess how much worse it would have been if I had tried to do anything physical. My body needed a timeout!

That's the news from the ICN offices... where I sit as one grateful, yet still tender... and as a somewhat humiliated... IC patient.

Jill

mom_in_ma
03-08-2005, 01:15 PM
Jill,
I'm so glad you are feeling better! Don't beat yourself up over the choices you made...I've made ALL of those SAME mistakes...antibiotics before being tested, yeast meds (just in case), etc. Desperation makes us do crazy things. Take care.

Debgail
03-08-2005, 01:29 PM
((((((Jill)))))

Yes...don't beat yourself up over it...I have done all the same things :P I think when we are in pain with flares they are so intense we just wa nt relief and grasp for ANYTHING to soothe the burn.

Bless your heart ...I am glad you are feeling better! BTW... THANK YOU so much for all you do for all of us on the boards... I know we all appreciate it so much! :woohoo:

Love Debbie f rom Nevada

dyno
03-08-2005, 01:57 PM
Jill,
I am glad you are doing better. I hate it when I do stupid things like that. We all live and learn.....or sometimes we do! :)

ICNDonna
03-08-2005, 02:12 PM
I've been looking enviously at my husband's root beer in the fridge and was almost ready to just go drink one --- thank you for the reminder that it just wouldn't be worth it. I'm glad you're feeling better today.

Warm hugs,
Donna

Babs RN
03-08-2005, 02:13 PM
Jill,
Glad you are feeling better. The weather was awesome this weekend, huh? I have to admit I never get sick on rainy days...only the sunny, mildly warm ones.

Hugs,
Barb

kelly McC
03-08-2005, 03:16 PM
I am sorry and glad your feeling better but I thank you for sharing that..
Kelly

Dixiefireball
03-08-2005, 03:33 PM
jill i must agree with the others don't beat your self up hon we all make mistakes from time to time the pain does that to us.
i'm glad you are feeling some better today take it easy hon.
we love you.
Rhonda

Sending you big cyber hug and prayers

rhea
03-08-2005, 05:40 PM
Jill-glad you are feeling better. Urethral burning is the worst-that is one of my primary symptoms and when it hits like that I spend lots of time in the tub with ice cubes helping the burning. Like Donna, I sat there last night cravinga cookie my husband made, this was a horrible reminder of what can happen...thanks for sharing.

hoping4acure
03-09-2005, 06:50 AM
Jill,

I'm so sorry you had to go through that. You are so right though..IC diet. I am so tempted sometimes to have a cup of coffee or go out for a nice italian dish, but I know the pain just isn't worth it. I whole wholeheartedly agree with the others...don't beat yourself up over it. It happens. I am happy to hear you are feeling better. Thank you for everything you do for us. You have no idea how much this web site helps me. :)

poetgirl
03-09-2005, 08:34 AM
Glad to hear you're feeling better now -- it sounded like a heckuva flare. :(

We've definitely all self-medicated when faced with that kind of pain and discomfort. The last time I had a VV flare (that ended up irritating my urethra, causing burning/spasms/you name it) I took a baking soda sitz bath figuring it would help, since it has before. Nope. For whatever reason that time it made everything worse. I had a date that night with the ice pack for sure! ;)

icnmgrjill
03-09-2005, 08:41 AM
Thank you all. But, ya know, I'm supposed to know better. I mean... sheesh! I just didn't handle that one as well as I could have... and it's proof positive the pain can make you do things you wouldn't normally do!

Day 7 - Pelvic floor muscles are still a wreck. Still some burning on urination but better. Walking is irritating so I'll be skipping the gym for the next few days! Don't even mention sex right now... I'd slug the first person that did! :::as she grins and smiles:::: Oh well!

songbird7
03-09-2005, 01:06 PM
I am so glad you are doing better even with some residual symptoms. And it looks like the nice weather will be continuing awhile. You are right to rest. Sometimes that is the only thing that works.
Gentle healing,
Songbird

JenG
03-09-2005, 02:01 PM
(((Jill)))
Glad you are feeling better. Don't beat yourself up for your choices. We've all been there. I always tell myself ...oh a little won't hurt, or just this once!! It's almost like rolling the dice, sometimes it actually doesn't cause a flare, or the pain isn't so bad. Other times though...well you know! :bonk:

Sarojini
03-09-2005, 04:07 PM
Glad you're feeling better, Jill -- I know how bad those can be. Last week I had the worst flare in about 8 months and was right there with ya. I still have not figured out what triggered it for sure, as it turned out not to be a UTI... but it was certainly painful, I'll tell you that!! It may have been a couple of nuts I ate the weekend before last... amazing that a couple of nuts could cause a week of pain, but it is the only thing dietary that I'd done differently than usual.... go figure.... *shrug*

:grouphug: Glad we're both feeling better now!

donutgirl
03-12-2005, 05:43 PM
Jill, just now reading your story...so glad you made it through to the other side of your flare. What occurred to me as I was reading was that we all KNOW what we SHOULD do, but when we are hit with that blinding pain, we almost panic...I'm thinking maybe I will make myself a SELF-HELP 9-1-1 LIST for when I'm really bad. Then I can pull the list out and try to sloooooow down and follow my list of things that have worked in the past for me. Just thought I'd share the thought.

As always, thanks for everything you do!!!
DIANE

DetroitMel
03-21-2005, 07:02 AM
Hey Jill - Glad you're feeling better. I just had a flare last week as well (after not having one since last August - I'm SO mad!!!! :headbang: ) But I just wanted to share that when I flare up, I get that deep vaginal burning as well. I ALWAYS think it's the worst yeast infection ever, but it never ends up being one - just the good old IC pain moving from place to place below the belt. I was dealing with that pain all day Thursday of last week. I hadn't heard of lots of others having that symptom, so while I'm sorry you had a flare, it is comforting to know that I'm not the only one who has experienced that! It's the worst!

Hope you are feeling 100% very soon!

~Melissa

icnmgrjill
03-21-2005, 07:17 AM
Thanks everyone for your very kind and gracious support. It's amazing what pain can do.... and it seems like having IC is like going to graduate school. For everything you know, you have to humbly realize that there are 50 questions that you don't know. In this case, my key learning was that IC pain can feel like the worst yeast infection ever. I have to save that I had never really experienced that before... and it makes me wonder just how many other "yeast" flares I've had that were actually pelvic floor spasms. Very very interesting indeed!

Jill :)

babygirl694
03-21-2005, 04:28 PM
I have the deep burning of the vagina also. Along with MelissaMC i feel like im having a yeast infection and before i was diagnosed they thought that i was having those all the time.. which i wasnt but it still almost feels like it should just be pouring out blood it hurts so bad. I'm glad that you recovered though. I've been in a bad flare since wednesday.. missed a day and a half of work (*thurs & fri*).. i had the weekend to sorta recover but it just seemed to make it worse. :o(.. im sure i'll get better soon though. You have a good day. :)

schnauzer lvr
03-23-2005, 08:34 AM
I have the same awful vaginal burning/pressure that feels like it can bleed or drop out but is a part of a bad IC flare. So glad that I am not alone in this but feel sorry for all of us who suffer this particular pain. It is hard to get rid of no matter what I do. Tests never show yeast or any other infection. I had a hysterectomy 6 years ago and all of these wonderful symptoms seem to have developed after that. Had IBS for years and still do but the IC is by far the worst ailment of all. I am actually having trouble getting out and about with the constant pain, urgency etc. Sorry to sound like such a complainer but with the current flare going on for months- I am not such a happy camper. Thanks for listening- it helps to vent to people who live it. Hope all of you are feeling better.

Amyinagony
03-26-2005, 07:45 AM
I'm so glad that you are better too. :kissing: The self medication thing, you are right, we shouldn't do that. My doctor lets me self-medicate to a point, and if I get a flare that I can't control, then I am to see her ASAP.

However....I also, (before getting my IC under control) self-medicated, or should I say self-unmedicated. I was on an antidepressant that was not prescribed by my IC/MD (was from a Psych/MD), because I was on that med my IC/MD could not give me the amount of the tricyclic antidepressant that would help my bladder more. I (without permission) (knowing that if my bladder felt better, "I" would feel better all the way around) weaned myself off the one antidepressant, waited to see how I was doing, told my IC/MD, she upped the tricyclic antidepressant which DID help my bladder. My Psych/MD was a bit angry at me for doing this, even though it turned out BETTER for me. He was going to call my IC/MD and talk to her about this and wanted me back on 'his' med. I said that I want to leave 'well-enough' alone!!! He also told me that the one she was giving me was a cardiac toxin. (he was wrong, she looked that up in a PDR, it isn't) He never called her.

I know that this is something we should never be doing, but it worked for me. I have since, been d/c'd from the Psych/MD's care, not sure if it is due to what I did. :)

emilyrose197377
05-24-2005, 02:37 PM
Jill I am sorry for what you went through but I am glad your doing better.

macylynn
05-24-2005, 05:27 PM
Jill,
I am so happy to hear you are feeling better! :grouphug: Every flare is such a learning experience. It is hard not to self medicate when we are in such pain over a weekend. :headbang: Thanks for sharing your story!

Ruchily
01-07-2006, 04:49 PM
Wow! I am new at these boards and I must say the symptoms you described are SO what I went through this past week! I cannot thank you enough :kissing: for sharing this...it gave me a MUCH better understanding of what is heppening to my body!

I am SO very sorry you had to go through all this though. How's your cold now? You poor thing :bonk: ...a cold AND IC... *hugs*

Thank you for creating these boards! I am learing so much I know I'm gonna make it! :bow: :love:

Ruchily

sandramac
01-07-2006, 05:28 PM
Jill! I had the same thing last week, but was also passing blood.doc was closed so i just self medicated too,Went to doc later no sing of infection 3 days off cippro.But i also get such horrible burning in my left hip and down my leg with the vaginal burning too.See uro in feb and family doc jan 16th for physical.What get to me is the full bladder pain and pressure!I was ready to have hubby take me to ER.Glad to hear your feeling better!Thank u again for all yous work here and sharing with us all!Luv to u Sandra

mela414
01-09-2006, 02:26 AM
Jill,

I wish I would have read your IC Flare post a few weeks ago! It might have helped me through a horrible flare I was having. I did all the things that you did with the exception that I continued with a full course of Nitrofurantoin because I thought it was an infection. It was the Holiday weekend.........no one was around.......the ER was not even a tought for Christmas Eve and the dr would not be in for 3 days. I spoke with his nurse on the phone and they put me on antibiotics. I guess i was desparate to get through the holiday without any down time. Eventually it subsided so I'll never know if it was a true infection but I then got hit with the dreaded yeast which I seem to have a problem with all the time anyway. This time it got to my fingernails and set off the whole Candida syndrome which I try so hard to keep in check. If this happens again.........I'll have to try your strategy. Gotta keep this post around for future reference! oh............bladder feels better but the yeast is NOT yet under control.........but I'm working on it!

July
01-09-2006, 09:26 AM
My IC seems to present itself also as vaginal/vulva burning like acid on the skin or like a bad yeast infection. Sure can make sitting or even wearing undies uncomfortable.

I was thinking I was the only one who got this, as opposed to frequency/urgency.

Cricketmk3
01-10-2006, 01:21 AM
I can't handle herbal tea. Caffeine-free or not. Sometimes though, I think we get flares for no particular reason. Just like mouth sores and fever blisters. They just crop up. Although I do think acid plays a part in all of those. Not necessarily something we eat in particular, I think the body just reaches an acid point that reminds us to cut down. I have been suffering with a mouth sore for almost a week now. It is very painful and I haven't been able to eat and barely talk. If that compares to what happens in our bladders, no wonder we are in such torturous pain!

mela414
01-10-2006, 02:44 AM
Marilyn,
Often time that burning of the tongue and mouth can be from vitamin deficiencies. We IC'ers don't get enough vitamins as it is....so perhaps when we are not getting enough from our diet and we are unable to supplement...the tongue acts up. I'm going to see if I can find some literature on it to bpost here....
As for me............I felt the pelvic pain creep yesterday and by evening it was full blown. Of course when I checked the yeast was back! As soon as I go off the Nystatin vag tabs for more than 2 days it starts to creep back....even with the probiotics and watching my diet. I think I might have to discuss going on a stornger oral medication. it seems that the Nystatin keeps it in check but doesn't get rid of it!
What a nightmare this is.

Cricketmk3
01-10-2006, 05:39 AM
Mel, I would love to know what to take to prevent mouth ulcers. My daughter keeps them ALL the time.

Cahyah
01-12-2007, 10:14 AM
hey all.... okay so i was doing great with the IC, feeling better, going about 3-4 hours between urination, so i decided to start experimenting with foods. for the last week or so i have been eating cookies, candy, hot dogs, sometimes even chili.... didnt seem to be a problem...then i decided to take myself off the xanax that the dr put me on so as to not get addicted to it. let me tell you that i awoke this week with peeing ever half hour, horrible burning, urgency, and the pain of wanting to urinate just by walking! i have no UTI...pee was all clear. is this a flare???? could it be from all the stupid foods i treated myself to? help!

icnmgrjill
01-13-2007, 02:14 PM
Yes... that's probably a flare and yes, that's probably due in large part to your sucky diet. Ironically, I'm having a bad flare today too!

Jill

Moonheart
01-13-2007, 03:15 PM
Also, the Xanax could have been muting the flare. I know when I am off my meds my frequency goes through the roof!

lbcharel
07-09-2007, 01:05 PM
HI glad your better ,Im in a flare up its lasted 3 weeks before my dmso treatments and Im watching my diet its hard do you know any good diets for IC,Im still hurting alot depressed as well thanks for lessoning