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massagedoula
03-07-2005, 01:53 PM
Hello again,

This is a new question that I have not asked yet because it didnt seem "important" but now it worries me. I urinate once or twice a day (out of the 50 times I go) into a plastic cup, because I have the urinalsis strips, which I use to check my urine reguarly since I developed these horrible symptoms 3 weeks ago. When I urinate in the plastic see though cup, I cannot help bu notice that the urine is very cloudy and full of particles. When I look closely the particles look like skin, like someone brushed their dry skin with a loofah and shook it into my urine. Some of the particles are very big, I can pull them out with tweezers (though they dont look like much to me close up, I have bad eyesight.) Then there are these stringy things that I was really freaked about because they look like little worms, and I have a worm phobia.

My urine is full of this stuff no matter when I take a sample or how much water I drink that day.

What are they??? I asked the gyno and other Dr. every time I have gone in to take a sample for culture (and no infection shows up) and they say the lab will report on it and to my knowledge it never does, or at least they never tell me. Its just "no infection, sorry." and that is it, nothing about the floating things.

I know its not supposed to be there, it is really scary to me.
Help!

Babs RN
03-07-2005, 03:29 PM
I constantly have floaters in my urine. Looks like an oil slick sometimes too. My uro said it is more of my GAG layer being shed.

Hugs,
Barb

massagedoula
03-07-2005, 04:11 PM
Im new at this. Is the GAG layer the mucosal layer of my bladder? Do you think that is what it is...? I havent been officially diagnosed with IC yet and I am sort of hoping that it is anything else...why would my bladder start shedding the GAG layer out of nowhere? My symptoms came on w/o any real reason. Only thing I can think of is that I got a PAP smear and yearly exam by the gyno a day before. So there I was, normal and happy, getting my yearly exam, suddenly next day I wake up with super bladder infection symptoms but no infection. I have been in constant urelenting pain and suffering and basically live on the toilet for 3 weeks now.

ICNDonna
03-07-2005, 04:54 PM
It's not unusual to have particles in the urine, even with a normal, healthy bladder. We don't notice them because we don't pay attention to our urine when there's nothing wrong.

Donna

massagedoula
03-07-2005, 06:09 PM
But these particles are BIG and there are lot of them. I had my husband urinate in a cup so I could compare and his was what I would call "normal" and mine was like one of those domes that you shake and all the snow flies around.

Babs RN
03-07-2005, 06:28 PM
That's exactly what I have floating. I have had some the size of dimes in my urine. I figued out the oilslick thing at my in-law's because they have a brown toilet and I noticed the contrast.

Hugs,
Barb :grouphug:

Sarojini
03-07-2005, 06:33 PM
I also get the "oil slick" Barb refers to -- plus floaters that look like skin. I have been told it is the bladder lining shedding. It can sometimes be seen in normal urine, but IC patients notice it more. Plus, sometimes the lining sheds more and faster in IC. It's gross, but usually nothing to to worry about unless you have an infection. :grouphug:

massagedoula
03-07-2005, 06:42 PM
How are the floaters different in an infection than "normal" IC? Do they look similar or different. I STILL think that I have a low grade infection, so that is why I am wondering. Wow BABSRN..the size of dimes...how can that even fit out your urethra????

Babs RN
03-07-2005, 06:50 PM
My urethra is completely detached and there is a hole and I always have blood, so I think somehow those boogers get through. I also get bloody mucus like when you're on your period when I pee too.(not period, no uterus) My bladder has prolapsed into my vagina, so my changed anatomy may allow them to get through better too.

Hugs,
Barb :bunny:

massagedoula
03-07-2005, 07:10 PM
How do you find out all these things about your urinary tract? I am going in for in in-office cystoscopy on Thursday. If I have things like a detached urethra, is that the time it will show up? I know that the cysto/hydro is the best, but I was not offered that. Thursday will be the first time I meet the Urologist and he will intantly do the cysto, says the nurse when I call to confirm my appt.?!

Sarojini
03-08-2005, 04:27 AM
It takes a while to find out about your urinary tract... some problems can be found via manual pelvic exam, others through cystoscopy, others through urodynamics and cystometrograms (these measure how well you pee, and whether your bladder is working properly) and still others can be seen through an IVP (intravenous pyelogram) in which dye is injected into you and watched via X-ray as it passes through your kidneys, ureters, and bladder.

Unfortunately, this is not a quick process -- but you may not need all of these tests, so don't freak just yet. Your uro will make a decision where to go next based on your symptoms and the results of your in-office cysto.

Debgail
03-08-2005, 02:07 PM
I have floaters in my urine whether i have an infection or not. I asked my uro about it
nd he said not to worry about it..as long as theres no infection. Take care, Debbie

michie
03-09-2005, 05:07 AM
i always have floaters and blood sometimes my urine looks like im peeing straight blood I asked my doc about the floaters and he said its just layers of the bladder and is normal in ic patients and the blood is also normal in some ic patients so I just stopped worrying about it but it is weird isnt it. You should really insist on a
cysto/hydro. my doc did an in office cysto on me and said that I had cronic cystitis which is not the same as ic treated me with antibiotics which seemed to make me worse and then when he saw I wasn't getting any better finally decided to do the cysto/hydro and found IC if he would have done it earlier maybe I wouldn't of had to suffer as much. Im on elmerion and elavil (spell) now
but its only been a few weeks so I don't know if going to work or not but im praying it does no flare in 1 and 1/2 week which is so awsome I already feel like a normal person again so do yourself a favor and call to see if your doc will change to a cysto/hydro under anastesia.

good luck

charzysbebe
03-20-2005, 08:04 PM
Hello all...just wanted to add my name to the "floaters" list...lol! I am suspecting that I have IC, but I will find out one of the days...and soon. I have been putting it off forever. I guess I am afraid as to what the doc might find. I get a bladder infection about every 3 months or so...but between infections, I burn...especially when I eat spicy foods and/or my urine is concentrated.

Anyways, I noticed that I had a tiny little white floaty in my urine tonight. It actually looked like a tiny white worm, about a half inch long, and the width of a string.

Does anyone else notice that their floaters are definately white?? Thanks!! :)

Betsie
03-21-2005, 02:07 AM
I think what everyone is trying to say here is that it seems to be pretty normal, without an infection present. I used to work for a Dr. and we had an in office lab as he was a diabetes specialist among other things. But as each patient provided a "catch" for urinalyisis, I do remember that what you are describing was referred to as sediment. I think (not an expert for sure) that this is a pretty normal part of urinating....don't quote ,me. I just think that when we are undiagnosed or even have an IC dx , that we seem to pay very close attention to things that have always been there. When I stopped analyzing the heck out of things associated with IC, my success with treatment seemed to gain strength.

I think we have a tendency to want answers to every aspect of this disease/syndrome and I am not so sure therer is an answer for everything. I think sediment is routins for most people and may occur at different times of the month....for me, it seems to follow a period sometimes and is evident just in the toilet, otherwise I pay no attention...otherwise I would stress over anything. :rolleyes:

I think you will feel much better with a dx or ruling IC out. Knowledge is always easier to accept than the unknown and specualtion. Hang in there, all of this does get better and many of us have rapid onset of symptoms, which makes us so curious and apprehensive, it becomes difficult to think about anything else. :hmm:

I think your husband was a real trooper to pee in a cup for you, that is true support. :kissing: