Vomiting, not IC related

[green_the_fish]

My mother, my little sister, and I went to eat at my best friend's house last night. The main course was salmon, which my mother and I ate, but my little sister didn't. This morning, I woke up at 4 AM to vomit and pass liquid stools. That's right, liquid. :toilet:
Then I fell asleep again, just to wake up again at 5:30 and vomit small amounts about 4 times. I thought it might be related to my mystery condition or some medicine I'm on. However, my mother also woke up at about 5:45 and vomited the entire meal in one shot. She's pretty sure that she's done vomiting, but I'm not so sure about myself.
Well, we feel really messed up :dizzy: My little sister feels great, though :) I've already missed the first period class of school this morning, though I'd like to go to school for at least half of the day, as I don't wanna get far behind. Anyway, now I'm just ranting and not getting to my point...
What's the polite way to tell someone that their food has posioned you?

[dyno]

Most likely if you both are sick, she might also be sick. It will be very easy to say, that the 2 of you are sick also and that your sister who didn't eat the salmon is fine and you bet that is what it is.

I hope you feel better soon, take it easy.

[Betsie]

On the other hand, is there really any need to let her know? if she were to ask you all due to people in her family getting sick, then you could answer..."oh maybe that's what was wrong with us", but my feeling is you probably don't want to blame their meal. If you happen to mention you were sick late that night, it isn't as accusatory, which I know is not your intention...

I would probably never eat salmon again, but hey that's me and food fear.

Feel better real soon and Mom too!

[dyno]

I just stopped back in here for a few minutes. Betsie has a good point. The other thing I thought of is if this by chance was canned salmon, if she still has the can, she may want to contact the company because there could be a bad lot number.

It is really hard when you are dealing with these kinds of situations. I was even thinking yesterday that when we travel at Christmas, one of the things we might go to is my extended family Christmas. They meet every year and it can be fun but it is always pot luck. I love pot luck but always worry about food preparation etc. I know what I do because I used to run a school lunch kitchen. The several years I was in charge when we had inspections, we had perfect scores. But I am very aware of what food borne illnesses will do to you and I am thinking, do I really want to go to a pot luck the day before I am going to be on the road for 13 hours......

Hope you feel better soon.

[ICNDonna]

I think I would call the hostess and let her know you are both sick. If it wasn't the salmon (probably was), they need to know that they may be exposed to an intestinal bug. If the hostess and family are also ill, they will want to get rid of any suspect fish and let the store where they purchased it know there was a problem.

I hope you feel better very soon.

Hugs,
Donna

[kelly McC]

Hope you feel better soon you and your mom.
Kelly

[Betsie]

Good point Donna, this happened to a friend of mine with a "hired" reputable catering company. The chicked was raw and many guests were sick, including herself...did it need to be her husbands sit down meal for 40 co-workers? Yeesh........so I guess, I am rethinking this a bit......

[green_the_fish]

Thanks for the advice. I think I'll just mention that my mother and I are sick, but my lil' sister isn't. She'll probably say that she and her father (who also ate the salmon) are sick as well. Then I can remind her that my sis' didn't eat the salmon, and then I can kind of walk her to a conclusion.
I'm getting kinda worried of myself, though. I've thrown up twice more since my post. Once I threw up Pepto-Bismol, then I threw up some watery juice that I tried to drink. However, I still was able to urinate a small amount. If I urinated, does that mean that at least some of what I drank was digested?
Oh, and my usual pelvic pain has gotten worse... stress?
My mother is sleeping, so I don't really know how she's doing. She hasn't thrown up again, to my knowledge.
I'm so thirsty and I really wanna drink, but now I'm scared. Should I try once more, and if I throw up, then go to the hospital so I can get a Saline IV?

Water, water everywhere,
And all the boards did shrink.
Water, water everywhere,
Nor any drop to drink.
(Coleridge, The Rime of the Ancient Mariner)
:(

[Betsie]

My kids pediatrician used to tell me to try for a tablespoon of pedialyte or gatorade every twenty minutes if nothing else worked. Stay away from fruit juices as the sugars in them increase the vomiting. Water if nothing else. if you can't keep any fluids in you, do call the Dr and see what you should do, you sure don't want to get dehydrated, and check on your Mom as well...it can get really hard to manage very quickly, so please call anyway, the more i think of it. Better safe than sorry.

[green_the_fish]

Thanks Betsie. I'll try drinking some waterly fluids and if I womit again, I'll call the doctor.
I'll keep everyone posted.

[work it]

oh green you poor thing. I hope this paases soon. It does sound like food poison though. Hopefully you can start keeping liquids down.

[ICNDonna]

I always vomit if I take Pepto Bismol --- for some reason it just does that to me. If you feel you really need to take in some liquids, you might try taking tiny sips of water. And if you aren't better by afternoon, it would be a good idea to call your doctor for advice.

I had food poisoning once and what they did for me was to induce vomiting, which you are already doing. It may be that both you and your mother picked up one of the bugs that is going around right now --- and if you were both exposed at the same time, that would explain why you are both sick right now.

Sending gentle hugs,
Donna

[green_the_fish]

Hey everyone. Oh wow, I totally wrote "womit" in my last post :lmao: Elmer Fudd!
Thank you so much to all of you who have been supporting me. I have some good news to share. I drank about 500 mg of Kool Aid right after my post, and I haven't thrown up any of it :)
I think the worst might be over now. :woohoo:
My mom is still sleeping. I'm glad that she's in the habit of sleeping on her side, at least I don't have to worry about her choking on her vomit.
I still don't dare to eat, but that's okay, because I'm not hungry at all. Food is the most repulsive thought I can conjure right now, especially fish! I mean, I'm getting grossed out just reading my screen name here! :biglaugh:
Looks like I've missed another day of school, but I guess that's no biggie. I wasn't going to win an award for perfect attendance anyway.
Thanks again to everyone who's replied, as well as to everyone who took the time to read to posts. I hope I'll be posting more good news soon.
P.S. Donna, I didn't know that Pepto Bismol could make people throw up! Thanks for sharing that. I usually do okay with that med, though. I've have had food poisoning before, when I was 12. I think it was from ice cream. The docs gave me a Saline IV and just let me chill out over night. They were really nice to me that time. I don't think I'll have to go to the hospital this time, though.

[green_the_fish]

Looks like I spoke too soon. My mother and I have developed a fever. I currently have a temperature of 102 degrees F, while my mother is at 101 degrees.
I don't think it's normal how much my pelvic pain has increased. My urine now has a sickly smell. I'd like to get my urine tested for a UTI or yeast infection.
I mean, I'd like for us to go to the ER. My mother is having more trouble with fluids than I am, I think she's getting dehydrated. I want us to go to the hospital, but my mother doesn't have health insurance for herself.
I'm in a lot of pain, but I can't take pain medicines because they make me nauseous under normal circumstances, I'm pretty sure they would cause me to vomit now. Also, they're supposed to be taken with food, which I haven't had in about 24 hours.
Do I need to have a legal gaurdian to take me to the ER? My last uro's office had that law kinda like that, and it was so unfair. My mother is single and raising two children, the rest of my family isn't even in the country. Is this my fault?
Oh, if I go on like this, I'll have to have this switched to the rant section. Sorry, I just need :help:

[dyno]

It would be my instinct that you might need a legal guardian. It sounds like you do need to get some medical attention though. Do you have a county hospital or a clinic that is open in the evenings for those without insurance?

[work it]

green do they have an after hour service at the doctors office? We have what is called acute care and it is right at the clinic. Since it isn't the ER it is cheaper and insurance likes that part. I sure do hope you and your mom will be getting better. Get plenty of rest and try to keep fluids in you.

[Betsie]

Green, you definitely need to get fluids. Your Mom too, the hospital can't refuse to treat her. it sounds like its not that easy for you to get there, either of you, but please at least call the ER nurses and talk to them, they will give ou great advice, but don't tell them your Mom is wothout insurance incase she needs to go in. I am not sure about the under 18 laws, perhaps they can tell you. Just call them at least...let us know how you are, perhaps a neighbor could drive you and give permission?

[Judith56]

I bet you have bug that is going around. I got hit with it on Friday and even though I just started to eat real food again yesterday, I still am having diarrhea. It wouldn't hurt to call the doctor and see what they say. Hope you feel better soon. Judith

[ICNDonna]

It sounds like you may both have a bug --- possibly flu --- you might give your doctor a call and ask for some advice.

Donna

[green_the_fish]

Hi everyone. Last night, I broke down and decided I needed to go to the ER. I called my best friend's dad (the one who cooked the salmon) and had him come over with my friend (his daughter). I was happy to see that they were both fine, so it couldn't have been their food. His daughter stayed at home with my little sister, while her father took me and my mother to the ER.
Once we were there, my mother made it clear that I shoud be the patient, and refused all treatment for herself due to a lack of insurance. I have insurance, but she doesn't :(
Well, the main reason I was there was to get my urine checked, but I didn't mind getting the lack of fluids taken care of. According to one of the docs who saw me, my tounge was barely wet when I first came in. I was hooked up to Saline IV, and got a shot of an anti-nausea med. Oh, and I gave samples of my blood and urine.
My friend's dad bought a big iced tea for my mom, and she didn't throw up. I was really happy for her.
The ER docs were pretty nice. They gave me some Jello as soon as I was well enough to be hungry.
After about four hours there, a doc came in and said I didn't have any infection present in my urine. I immediately started to cry, which made the doc quite confused.
I left the ER with a prescription for Zofran. My mom took some, and it made her feel better. I'm glad I could help her. We don't have fevers anymore.
So, now I'm at home, but my pelvic pain is still abnormally bad. It seems that the stomach flu triggered my IC and/or PFD and/or urethritis (since no doc actually knows what I have). I hope that the pain will improve soon, I really want to go to school tomorrow. I've missed the last two days and I don't wanna get a lot of make-up work.

[Betsie]

Hey Green,

I am so glad you did go. He was a kind friend to take you guys. I feel reall badly your Mom didn't get medical attention, please look into her options, as far as I know an emergency room cannot refuse medical care due to lack of insurance.

I know you said she didnt seek the care,but I would hate for her to deny herself medical care if she were ever sicker. I guess I just feel bad that she felt afraid to be seen...but I am glad you both are better. You sound like a really good daughter...:)